Dear Howard, lists -

Den 10/11/2014 kl. 03.31 skrev Howard Pattee 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>:

HP: I agree. I define epistemology broadly as the study of the relation between 
models (images, information, etc.) inside the organism and whatever is outside 
the organism (reality, existence, etc.). In my experience, this definition 
covers far too much territory to expect just one type of epistemic relation. 
That is, the organism's acquisition of information (detection, observation, 
measurement, etc.) will require a kind of complexity hierarchy. A cell 
detecting chemicals or light, will suggest a different epistemic interpretation 
than will a physicist detecting fermions or photons with complex instruments.

It is certainly correct there are many epistemic relations. And not all of them 
are between "models inside the organism" and "whatever is outside the 
organism". Most scientifc knowledge is not inside organisms but are deposited 
in papers, diagrams, books, scientific infrastructure, experimental and 
conceptual practices. This is the precondition for science as a collective, 
evolving project over generations.

I would say that the amount of epistemic interpretation you choose to add to 
either of these events, beyond the actual acquisition of information, is 
largely arbitrary, but will be of benefit, as you say, "if new facts can be 
understood harmoniously with the original impression from another modality" (or 
hierarchical level).

I find that philosophers have a narrower view of 
epistemology<http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/epistemology/> . It is mostly 
about justification of belief, and mostly about humans thinking about 
language-dependent ideas. Some philosophers consider the two extremes of 
realism and nominalism as ontological issues, but physicists seldom mention 
ontologies, considering them as pure metaphysics too far outside the domain of 
science.

Howard often refers to what "physicists" mean about this and that. This is 
highly relevant as concerns physics but maybe less so as concerns epistemology 
and ontology. In my experience there are different views about the relevance 
and character of these issues among physicists. Many physicists seem concerned 
with which things must exist if their models are true - and ontology is nothing 
more than that. But even if physicists did unanimously agree, we should not 
expect a vote among phycisists (nor any other select group) to be able to 
settle these issues.

Best
F

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