Helmut, list,
Yep, Pound was a fascist who, through the intercession of influential
friends, managed to receive nothing more than commitment to an
institution for the insane after broadcasting propaganda for the Axis in
WW2 (unlike William Joyce, "Lord Haw-Haw", who got hanged). Oddly
enough, Pound's friendship with the Jewish communist Louis Zukofsky
persisted. Both of them were sometimes three-ists, although not of the
Peircean variety.
Zukofsky found that the Greek word _/rhythmos/_ had gone through changes
of meaning, from shape, to rhythm, to style. See "A" - 12
https://books.google.com/books?id=rJVBOGqoi2oC&pg=PA126&lpg=PA126&dq=zukofsky++%22So+goes:+first,+shape%22&source=bl&ots=NxJVYX9-ou&sig=W2ZXJUZPDnnUTh7JFTlvmnGyQmo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwik64zj4enMAhVODlIKHcMeDWgQ6AEILTAI
There's some sort of similarity to the Thomistic three requisites for
beauty: wholeness, harmony, radiance. In _A Portrait_ James Joyce
portrayed a conversation about that. It was in the air in the
English-speaking avant-garde in those days.
Best, Ben
On 5/20/2016 12:50 PM, Helmut Raulien wrote:
Supplement: Just read about Ezra Pound at Wikipedia. A fascist,
oops. But this poeia-thing is a good idea of his, anyway. People
donot have only good or only bad ideas, I guess. Probably he has had
this idea before his mind obscured.
List,
when I read about the comparison of science / mathematics with
engineering, the term "reverse-engineering" comes into my mind.
Perhaps a hypothesis in physics is an attempt to reverse-engineer an
aspect of nature, and a mathematical hypothesis, to reverse-engineer
an aspect of logic?
In creativity though, it is somehow different, say, in biological
evolution and in arts: Here there is no reverse-engineering of
something already existing, but the hypothesis is a hypothesis of
viability: Might this or that new combination work out to be
fulfilling (in evolution) a species members needs, conquer a niche,
or, in arts, be esthetic, logical, or deliver an extraordinary view
of some kind- or even an- even more viable- combination of the
three, like a complex emotion. I think, Ezra Pounds parts of poetry
(melopoeia, logopoeia, phanopoeia) apply to music and painting too:
A picture can have a melody and a logic , a peace of music a logic
(eg. Bach), or even paint something in the mind. So, abduction in
this case is not only telling something about the origin of a sample
of beans or something else, already existing, but to create
something new. This new thing though must fit somehow into old
schemes, otherwise it would not be regarded as viable or
extraordinary. But, once established, it changes or widenes the old
schemes. This evolutionary thing, maybe, is the uniqueness of abduction?
Best,
Helmut
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