Edwina, List: Again, Peirce's position is quite plainly stated in the text of CP 6.24-25--not dualism, neutralism, or materialism, but idealism; specifically, objective idealism, which holds "the psychical law alone as primordial" and "that matter is effete mind."
Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt\ On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 12:41 PM Edwina Taborsky <[email protected]> wrote: > JAS, Gary R, list: > > I continue to disagree with your stance that Peirce's objective idealism > is equivalent to idealism - and that 'the psychical law is primordial' - > with the psychical law as 3ns. > > My reading of Peirce is that NOTHING is primordial - neither Mind nor > Matter. Instead, my reading of Peirce is that objective idealism means that > Mind is working on Matter. Again, Peirce did not say that his theory was > 'idealism'; he specifically used the term of 'objective' added to that > idealism. What is 'objective'? An external, non-subjective object; ie, > matter. Mind cannot operate on its own; therefore, it is working with/on > Matter > > My understanding of Peirce is that both Matter and Mind are co-evolving. > Neither is primordial; but they co-evolve in complexity. An atom is less > complex than a cell, and the Mind that functions as the organization of an > atom is less complex than the Mind that organizes the organization of > a cell. What is going on in our universe is the co-development of > Mind-as-Matter and Matter-as-Mind; both increasing in complexity. Again - > neither is primordial. > > I consider it an error to think that 3ns, or habit-taking is primordial. > As Peirce says, 'three elements are active in the world:first, chance; > second, law, and third, habit-taking' 1.409. That is - the three categories > are not primordial. > > What is primordial? Nothing. As Peirce writes - "in the beginning - > infinitely remote - there was a chaos of unpersonalized feeling, which > being without connections or regularity would properly be without > existence" 6.33 > > That is - there is no 3ns in this state of 'unpersonalized feeling'. This > means - there is no 'Mind' or 'idealism. > > Edwina >
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