John, List: On the contrary, as Helmut and Gary have observed, that is the reason why the word "mark" is a terrible choice--someone who is unfamiliar with the details of Peirce's semeiotic will almost certainly misunderstand and misuse it as signifying "an actual material sign," thus incorrectly treating it as virtually synonymous with "token" instead of "tone/tuone/tinge/potisign."
Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 5:42 PM John F Sowa <s...@bestweb.net> wrote: > Helmut, Jon, List, > > That is the reason why the word 'Mark' is the perfect choice: you won't > be wrong whether or not you know the details of Peirce's semeiotic. > > HR: I haven´t thoroughly followed the discussion about "mark", because I > felt, that in this case the academic meaning (possibly a possible) differs > too much from from the common meaning, in which a mark is an actual > material sign, intended to be recognizable by anybody else. > > The fact that the academic meaning and the common meaning would both use a > word with the spelling M-A-R-K makes it the ideal choice for everybody: > academics who insist on being absolutely faithful to Peirce's technical > sense and everybody else who doesn't know Peirce's technical sense. > > In fact, one reason why Peirce chose the word tone is that it would be > correct for that subset of marks that have the sound of a tone. He also > considered 'tuone' for a larger subset of marks that happened to have the > sound of tones or tunes. And he considered the word 'tinge' for that > subset of marks that could be tinges. But the word 'mark' covers all those > sounds as well as arbitrary sights and feelings. > > That means that Peirce himself preferred words whose dictionary sense was > close to or even identical to the academic sense that he intended. Since > the overwhelming majority of professional philosophers know very little > about the fine points of Peirce's semeiotic, it's a good idea to choose > terms that they are capable of remembering and using correctly. > > John >
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