List, Stefan: With regard to the Peirce - Holderlin potential relationships, and the connection among Hegel, Schelling and Holderlin, see:
"The Romantic Conception of Life" by Richard J. Roberts, UC Press. Robert discusses at considerable length the relationships of the three roommates from Baden-Wurtenburg and the sad fate of Holderin. In general, it appears to me, that Peirce eventually rejected Kantianism and the Romantics in favor of his self-developed view logic. When Peirce failed to incorporate the Anaximander / Schelling view of polar opposites, he shot himself in the foot. The unintended consequence was that he failed to grasp the logic of electricity in its role in valence and molecule structures of chemistry and in its extension to life itself. Cheers Jerry On Sep 4, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Stefan Berwing wrote: > Cassiano, George, Ben, Jay, > > maybe there is a indirect connection to Hölderlin. Schelling, Hegel and > Hölderlin were close friends when they studied together at the Tübinger > Stift. As far as i know they even were room mates (can't find the reference). > > Although Hölderlin wrote the poem at the end of his life, the idea could be > even older and the three could have shared it somehow (e.g."Das älteste > Systemprogramm des deutschen Idealismus". A text fragment whose authorship is > open. It is handwritten by Hegel, but the authorship can also belong to > Schelling or Hölderlin1). So possible traces to follow are also > Peirce-Hegel-Hölderlin or Peirce-Schelling-Hölderlin. > > Best > Stefan > > P.S.: "Outland" seems to me the best translation of "Fremde". > > 1 > http://books.google.de/books?id=s2_nzshEVUcC&pg=PA476&lpg=PA476&dq=Das+%C3%A4lteste+Systemprogramm+des+deutschen+Idealismus&source=bl&ots=a021IdBW2E&sig=acJ0nORf-aHobgnFqbi-xem31dQ&hl=de&ei=mshjTvm0A4KP4gTE972SCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q&f=false > > >> I would be very surprised if Peirce were not at least >> somewhat familiar with Hölderlin. Hölderlin was a major >> 19th century poet, and Peirce was steeped in German >> literature. I imagine he read German as fluently as >> English, having read Kant in German as a teenager. >> >> Jay >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: C S Peirce discussion list [PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU] on behalf of >> gstic...@mindspring.com [gstic...@mindspring.com] >> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 10:51 AM >> To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU >> Subject: Re: [peirce-l] Peirce and Hölderlin >> >> I've not found anything in a bit of a cursory search >> George >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Cassiano Terra Rodrigues >> Sent: Aug 31, 2011 1:46 AM >> To: PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU >> Subject: [peirce-l] Peirce and H=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=F6lderlin?= >> >> Hello list: >> >> Does anyone know whether Peirce knew anything by Friedrich Hölderlin? >> I'm thinking specifically about Hölderlins poem called Mnemosyne, where the >> image of man as sign appears. I found this link to the poem: >> >> http://publish.uwo.ca/~rparke3/documents/mnemosynedrafttrans.pdf >> >> And also this quote from Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit (I couldn't make >> sure yet whether or not it's from "The Death of Empedocles"/ "Der Tod des >> Empedokles", by Hölderlin): >> "Der Pathos des Sängers ist nicht die betäubende Naturmacht, sondern die >> Mnemosyne, die Besinnung und gewordeneInnerlichkeit, die Erinnerung des >> unmittelbaren Wesens." (sorry, I can't translate that into English and >> couldn't find the translation online, but it's from the Phenomenology of >> Spirit, VII.B.c: The Spiritual Work of Art). This quote seems to indicate >> to the same general philosophical point as CSP does in his 1868 papers on >> cognition: the impossibility of an imediate knowledge. Anyway, just a point >> of historical curiosity; but the Hölderlin case seems more interesting, to >> me at least. >> All the very best to all, >> cass. >> >> George Stickel >> Southern Polytechnic State University >> Cell: 404-388-7162 >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the PEIRCE-L > listserv. To remove yourself from this list, send a message to > lists...@listserv.iupui.edu with the line "SIGNOFF PEIRCE-L" in the body of > the message. To post a message to the list, send it to > PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the PEIRCE-L listserv. To remove yourself from this list, send a message to lists...@listserv.iupui.edu with the line "SIGNOFF PEIRCE-L" in the body of the message. To post a message to the list, send it to PEIRCE-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
