On Nov 5, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Tony Rutkowski <[email protected]> wrote:

> Phill,
> 
> Might I suggest that your characterizations
> are far from accurate here, and I would certainly
> not denigrate the UK government in this fashion.
> 
> You are, however, evading the key question
> repeated below:
>> And just how does one get from Phill and friends
>> in perpass talking about clever schemes, to  "forcing"
>> all the governments, vendors, and providers of the
>> world to implement those schemes?
> ...especially when most those other governments
> governments and a great many providers are now
> scaling up their activities to instantiate more pervasive
> surveillance in the infrastructure.  Or, is this all just
> an academic exercise?


It’s a matter of setting GAAP-like “generally accepted best practices” for 
fiber operations that expose fiber operators to shareholder and customer 
lawsuits for failure to implement  those best practices.

If Google implements continuous-flow encryption on its fiber, it won’t be long 
before somebody sues Yahoo for not doing the same. If all the US fiber is 
secured, it won’t be long before French companies seek the same competitive 
advantage.

All we have to do is set the baseline best-practice (possibly in collaboration 
with other standards bodies), and market forces will do the rest.

—
Dean



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