That’s my point. On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:17 PM, Nicholas Weaver <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Nov 5, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Dean Willis <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Wrong. See, the GCHQ has been surveilling US citizens using taps, and the >> NSA has been surveilling UK citizens using taps. Both are allowed to use >> covert mechanisms to surveil foreigners. Then they trade data sets with each >> other. >> >> This is state surveillance, but since it’s quite reasonably “illegal”, it >> also requires secrecy. Securing the transit links such that a “legal order” >> is required would significantly impact the interception. > > Except that its clear that they already HAVE gotten "legal" orders for such > surveillance. E.g. AT&T secret room, GCHQ's deal with Level 3, etc... > > > -- > Nicholas Weaver it is a tale, told by an idiot, > [email protected] full of sound and fury, > 510-666-2903 .signifying nothing > PGP: http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/data/nweaver_pub.asc > > > _______________________________________________ > perpass mailing list > [email protected] > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass
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