On Nov 5, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Eric Burger <[email protected]> wrote:

> Immediately visible and OK. That is the problem. For state surveillance, 
> there is no need for secrecy.
> 

Wrong. See, the GCHQ has been surveilling US citizens using taps, and the NSA 
has been surveilling UK citizens using taps. Both are allowed to use covert 
mechanisms to surveil foreigners. Then they trade data sets with each other.

This is state surveillance, but since it’s quite reasonably “illegal”, it also 
requires secrecy.  Securing the transit links such that a “legal order” is 
required would significantly impact the interception.

—
Dean

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