Hi Behdad, I heard you. Yes, you replied some tardy, but still hasty. It is good to have others' opinions but I don't like to see you opposing for nothing. You apparently wrote to Connie but I'm answering to you, Behdad.
On Sun, 9 May 2004, Behdad Esfahbod wrote: > [...] In short: There's much more to do than "translating" > the Microsoft list of blah blah. [...] Yes, there's much more to do but that's not enough reason for us to ignore minor (as you assume) things. > In fact I checked the IranL10nInfo as soon as Omid posted the > link, but well, had a look at the discussions and the spec, > and apparently closed the window and continued my work. You don't need to mention that. It is clear that you have studied it enough, and it is interesting that you've got so many comments from that glance. > 1) I see no apparent benefit (to anyone) in preparing a patch for > Microsoft: they don't apply it. Well, I'm not quitting because you think like that. > 2) The working group apparently didn't look at the > persiancomputing archives and other sources: we've already > answered most of the questions, So where do you think that information has come from? > but if they are lazy and want us to go say write this in that > column, No, we've got more important things to do. Is that what I asked?? Or is that the answer to my considering and respecting your ideas? > 3) As I said before, they are translating stuff, not > gathering the Iran's locale information. We are translating those that should be translated and gathering those locale information that is required. We are fixing mistakes here or trying to make them as little as possible, and not introducing new functionality. > In Iran no one uses anything like the AM/PM of English. I already know about that. There are some defined properties that have to have some values regardless of the locale instead of returning blank results. When the clock is set to 12-hour mode (since this is possible for every locale) the time is ambiguous without an AM/PM designator. That is all the choice in front of us, so it's better to produce an acceptable output rather than a non-sense one. > Still, in their list you see they have translated AM/PM to > Ghaf.Zad./Beh.Zad., [...] Look again. It is "Sobh/Be.Zad." I believe "Ba'd az Zohr" makes sense for every PM time except at the exact 12:00 O'clock. "Asr" works but from 6 on it sounds odd (as it is in Linux). For AM, "Ghaf.Zad" or "Ghabl az Zohr" is unusual (as it is in Windows). > 4) The discussion around "Mordad" vs "Amordad" suggested that > either at least some of the people involved have been out of > country for such a long time, or they are that kind of people > that will refuse to use Arabic words! No offense meant, no > war please. If you're meaning me, yes, I'm out of country for about a year. So what? I'm not eligible to say about my country and my culture? What about yourself? Did you find "Mordad" Arabic, or "Amordad"?! Well, you're keeping so conservative man... no war! > Believe me, I read how they changed it to > "Mordad" and how open to ideas the group is. But still > that's the impression it left in me. It is still "Amordad"; I was going to point it out here to discuss, as I did not find about it in the archives. > 5) Forum discussion is not the most effective way of > communication; email is much more efficient. That's why I'm here. > 6) No one invited my/us to help, so one can't blame me/us for > not doing that :-). [...] You're speaking from your own side. I first wrote to Roozbeh and he has been kind and helping all the way. Moreover, I am not pushing or blaming anyone here, nor I see any reason for that. But if you really want to give a hand I'll appreciate. > Well, fortunately enough Omid is hanging around here and will > (hopefully) essentially move the discussion here :). It's already moved here. I hope we can have positive discussions here, Behdad. > Cheers, > behdad > More Cheers :P, Omid _______________________________________________ PersianComputing mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sharif.edu/mailman/listinfo/persiancomputing
