Wow!!! You have no idea how incredible I found to be reading something
like this: "I am willing to invest years and if all goes well even
decades of efforts since its an area that I love to code for". It
definitely made my day! :-) Especially the last part, that you really
*love* to code in this area (something I cannot but admire).

I always found the Squeak/Pharo environment so cool to code in, the
"aliveness" of the image, but also had the feeling that the graphics
system was a little outdated. Unfortunately being unable to do
something about it, first because I have no expertise in the area, and
second, because... well... I guess I'm lazy and not patient/talented
enough for graphics programming ;-). It is therefor great that Igor
and now you showed up, able to improve in this area, and also willing
:-)

To sum it up: I always thought that open-source Smalltalk should
*look* as great from the "outside" as it is cool on the "inside" (the
semantics).

It simply deserves no less.

So I am really grateful for any effort put in this. Pharo already
looks great, much has been archived, and I can't wait to see what you
guys will come up with next...

Best regards,

Sebastian


2012/11/25 dimitris chloupis <[email protected]>:
> "eye candy" wise this is exactly the focus of my Ephestos project , Morpheas
> section. A custom gui , gui designers for easy creating of GUIs by the user
> and additional moprh widget with customized look including eye candy.
>
> I can't make any promises, as I have no clue what kind of obstacles and
> technical limitations I am going to find in the process but I can tell you I
> am willing to invest years and if all goes well even decades of efforts
> since its an area that I love to code for.
>
> As a first part I am in the process of creating a tutorial generator which
> will be ProfStef on steroids for at first offering tutorial for Athens and
> later used for any kind of Pharo tutorial.
>
> I am also interested in helping Athens porting to OpenGL and generally using
> NBOpenGL as the next step for Morphic. Excitting stuff the only thing it
> worries me is the type of technical blocks / obstacles I may come across but
> trying is certainly well worths it.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Sebastian Nozzi <[email protected]>
> To: Pharo Development <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, 24 November 2012, 17:06
> Subject: [Pharo-project] Athens OpenGL backend - what does it mean?
>
> Hello Pharo Devs,
>
> I am really excited about the direction Pharo is taking regarding many
> areas - one of them being the graphics. I played with Athens a bit and
> it's cool to see anti-aliased vectror graphics coming to Pharo.
>
> I keep reading about a possible OpenGL back-end in the future... what
> would this mean exactly?
>
> For years I have been "dreaming" about graphic-accelerated "eye-candy"
> effects inside of the Smalltalk environment. Like compiz-fusion
> effects in Linux, or Quartz-Extreme powerded in OS-X (Exposé, etc.).
>
> Would this be possible with such a back-end? Or am I misinterpreting
> things? I'm not a graphic-dev expert.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sebastian
>
>
>

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