Herby Vojčík wrote:
Guillermo Polito wrote:
AFAIR, PharoDatabaseAccessor was meant to work with SqueakDBX/DBXTalk
driver. No other driver should use it. At the time Garage did not even

So I'd say that you should not use PharoDatabaseAccessor with another
driver than the one it was originally mean to? I do not know exactly
your setup, I was not following this thread.

Really I cannot tell much more. This was really long time ago.

Great to know!

I am not using it consciously, though. System somehow selects it and
uses it in the background (I just do MyDescriptorSystem sessionForLogin:
myLoginObject; and before that I set GarageGlorpDrive to be the default).

This seems to be the actual fix (make Glorp with Garage not use

Actually, probably not. It is more in, it should be fixed to work with Garage. It has lots of functionality there... :-(


On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 12:20 AM, Herby Vojčík <he...@mailbox.sk
<mailto:he...@mailbox.sk>> wrote:

Esteban A. Maringolo wrote:


I regularly use `session login`, but I don't use SQLite in
Pharo, but I
do in VisualWorks and it works just fine.
Maybe if there is a bug we should fix it. Even with a no-op method.


Esteban A. Maringolo

It's hard. The problem is

PharoDatabaseAccessor >> encoding
^self connection queryEncoding

which overrides parent, which is atm:

"The connection is specific to the dialect; some dialects will need
to override this method."

^connection encoding

The former was added at GuillermoPolito.73 back in 2011 (and the
latter was the same back then). It probably fixed something, but I
don't see any implementors of queryEncoding atm (definitely not in
Garage). From the diff it is clear lots of databases and drivers
have gone. Now, why was it change for Pharo (and does it need to be
changed in 2017)?

Ccing Guillermo Polito.


P.S.: I wonder how it is that no one actually had problem with this?
This predictably fails on `session login` on pharo, unless
queryEncoding is somehow magically present without seeing it in
source code for other platforms?

2017-08-05 15:52 GMT-03:00 Herby Vojčík <he...@mailbox.sk
<mailto:he...@mailbox.sk <mailto:he...@mailbox.sk>>>:

Alistair Grant wrote:

Hi Herby,

On 5 August 2017 at 18:09, Herby
Vojčík<he...@mailbox.sk <mailto:he...@mailbox.sk>
<mailto:he...@mailbox.sk <mailto:he...@mailbox.sk>>> wrote:


First of all, what is preferred way to (first time)
into database? I
had the impression that `aDatabaseAccessor login`
is sorta
low-level, and
one should do `session login` (after all, it is
session you
get to work
with, not an accessor).

But with Garage SQLite, `session login`, when
accessor is
not logged, always
fails with "MessageNotUnderstood:

Should one not use `session login` at all, then (when
accessor is logged, it
just does nothing, if it isn't, it connects the
but tries to do
some additional work which always fails)?


From memory this is caused by differences between
and Pharo.

Anyway, it is discussed and resolved in:


Doesn't look like solved to me. Anyway, at least I know it
is known
for year and no-one seemed to see it as a bug.

I think it is one (you cannot just send queryEncoding where
no class
implements it and be fine, imo).

So what is the state of `session login`? Is it meant to be
used, or
everyone just took a step down to low-level and uses `accessor
login` instead? :-(


Thanks, Herby


Guille Polito

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