Guillermo Polito wrote:
How did you install garage and glorp? Catalog, configurations? Can you
paste here the installation instructions you followed?

Just adding GarageGlorp as dependency:

baseline: spec
        spec for: #common do: [ spec

                package: 'Towergame' with: [ spec
                        requires: #('GarageGlorp' 'NeoJSON') ];
                package: 'Towergame-Tests' with: [ spec
                        requires: #('Towergame' 'Mocketry') ];

                configuration: 'GarageGlorp' with: [ spec
                        version: #stable;
'' ];
                configuration: 'NeoJSON' with: [ spec
                        version: #stable;
'' ];
                baseline: 'Mocketry' with: [ spec
                        repository: 'github://dionisiydk/Mocketry:v4.0.x' ];

                group: 'default' with: #('Core');
                group: 'development' with: #('Core' 'Tests');
                group: 'Core' with: #('Towergame');
                group: 'Tests' with: #('Towergame-Tests') ]

and loading it in script via

Metacello new baseline: 'Towergame'; repository: 'gitlocal:///', (hereRef / 'src') fullName; load: 'development'.

I presume this is how it should be done?


But, does that affect the presence of queryEncoding? It's the mythincal creature, I have browsed repos out there, history of development of Glorp and found it nowhere.

Did it actually exist? :-)

In fact, from what I saw, it seems Glorp accumulated its share of technical debt, drivers came and went, platforms, too, dialects on which it runs, too. It seems to me it needs serious detanglement. Get rid of ifs, structure clenly, change ifs comparing to hardcoded symbols with double dispatch, etc. :-(


P.S.: And most of all, add one smoke test to test it with each login type that actually uses `session login`, not database accessor's one (not seen, but it was mention in this thread or the one linked below no test actually sends `session login`).

On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 1:37 AM, Herby Vojčík <
<>> wrote:

    Herby Vojčík wrote:

        Guillermo Polito wrote:

            AFAIR, PharoDatabaseAccessor was meant to work with
            driver. No other driver should use it. At the time Garage
            did not even

            So I'd say that you should not use PharoDatabaseAccessor
            with another
            driver than the one it was originally mean to? I do not know
            your setup, I was not following this thread.

            Really I cannot tell much more. This was really long time ago.

        Great to know!

        I am not using it consciously, though. System somehow selects it and
        uses it in the background (I just do MyDescriptorSystem
        myLoginObject; and before that I set GarageGlorpDrive to be the

        This seems to be the actual fix (make Glorp with Garage not use

    Actually, probably not. It is more in, it should be fixed to work
    with Garage. It has lots of functionality there... :-(


            On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 12:20 AM, Herby Vojčík
            < <>
            < <>>> wrote:

            Esteban A. Maringolo wrote:


            I regularly use `session login`, but I don't use SQLite in
            Pharo, but I
            do in VisualWorks and it works just fine.
            Maybe if there is a bug we should fix it. Even with a no-op


            Esteban A. Maringolo

            It's hard. The problem is

            PharoDatabaseAccessor >> encoding
            ^self connection queryEncoding

            which overrides parent, which is atm:

            "The connection is specific to the dialect; some dialects
            will need
            to override this method."

            ^connection encoding

            The former was added at GuillermoPolito.73 back in 2011 (and the
            latter was the same back then). It probably fixed something,
            but I
            don't see any implementors of queryEncoding atm (definitely
            not in
            Garage). From the diff it is clear lots of databases and drivers
            have gone. Now, why was it change for Pharo (and does it
            need to be
            changed in 2017)?

            Ccing Guillermo Polito.


            P.S.: I wonder how it is that no one actually had problem
            with this?
            This predictably fails on `session login` on pharo, unless
            queryEncoding is somehow magically present without seeing it in
            source code for other platforms?

            2017-08-05 15:52 GMT-03:00 Herby Vojčík <
            < <>>
            < <>
            < <>>>>:

            Alistair Grant wrote:

            Hi Herby,

            On 5 August 2017 at 18:09, Herby
            Vojčík< <>
            < <>>
            < <>
            < <>>>> wrote:


            First of all, what is preferred way to (first time)
            into database? I
            had the impression that `aDatabaseAccessor login`
            is sorta
            low-level, and
            one should do `session login` (after all, it is
            session you
            get to work
            with, not an accessor).

            But with Garage SQLite, `session login`, when
            accessor is
            not logged, always
            fails with "MessageNotUnderstood:

            Should one not use `session login` at all, then (when
            accessor is logged, it
            just does nothing, if it isn't, it connects the
            but tries to do
            some additional work which always fails)?


             From memory this is caused by differences between
            and Pharo.

            Anyway, it is discussed and resolved in:


            Doesn't look like solved to me. Anyway, at least I know it
            is known
            for year and no-one seemed to see it as a bug.

            I think it is one (you cannot just send queryEncoding where
            no class
            implements it and be fine, imo).

            So what is the state of `session login`? Is it meant to be
            used, or
            everyone just took a step down to low-level and uses `accessor
            login` instead? :-(


            Thanks, Herby


            Guille Polito

            Research Engineer

            French National Center for Scientific Research -

            *Web:* _http://guillep.github.io_

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