Anyhting made after 1840 is not an antique, but is considered a collectible. 
Anything antique is usually referred to as an item hand made prior to 1840. A 
least for furniture this date is of signifigance due to the creation of the 
wire nail. Nails were hand wrought 1840 and prior. Also wood was being cut 
after 1840 with a circular saw and no longer by hand. So cars and phonographs 
are more or less collectibles rather than antiques. 



-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Wright <[email protected]>
To: Phono L <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Jan 3, 2010 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] definition of "antique" - was Re: Shipping phonographs



ntique is a moving target, and I think it always has been.  Regarding its legal 
efinition for purposes of insurance claims against shipping damage, Rich is 
ight, it does need to be clearly stated, though I think 100 years is too many, 
ersonally.  I've also found more than one source saying 100 years is the 
ypical consideration (none of which were wiki-related).  
Seems it's a bit like "unique", another word murdered by popular usage and 
eneral misunderstanding.  There are no degrees of unique -- it means literally 
ne of its kind in all of existence.  That one gets me worse than "antique" 
oes.
Fun story, Peter.  I know people less than half your friend's age who are still 
o scared to embrace modern (computer) technology fully, even though in their 
outh they were anything but Luddite.


 From: [email protected]
 Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 11:34:22 -0800
 To: [email protected]
 Subject: [Phono-L] definition of "antique" - was Re:  Shipping phonographs
 
 Yesterday my 14 year old and I went to install some RAM in the computer of a 
riend.  We also helped our friend with her iPod.
 
 As we left, I told my daughter that she would be lucky if she, too, could be 
s "with it" when she got to the age of our friend:  92.  She replied that she'd 
lways stay up on the latest ipods and other technology...but paused to reflect 
hen I mentioned that by that time, an iPhone would look to youngsters the same 
ay an Edison cylinder phono looks to her today.
 
 "Antique" is a moving target.  Most kids today have no idea what an LP is - 
nd even cassettes as well - and when they see one consider it to be an antique.
                      
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