:)) Early American Pattern Glass (EAPG). In a few years it will become 200 years old (2025-ish)...yikes. Hopefully this BIG anniversary will bring out more interested folks! And...hopefully I will be around to see it. LOL
No matter how one defines "antique," 100 year anniversaries DO count. :) Ger ger55 on ebay; [email protected] Victorian Glass Plus! http://www.tias.com/stores/vgpp http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glass_antique_and_old/ ----- Original Message ----- From: John Maeder To: Antique Phonograph List Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 5:30 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] definition of "antique" ger, In my previous post on this subject I said that I had long-ago heard that the 100-year old rule of defining an 'antique' came from Federal tax code, and I think it probably comes from the importation rule to which you refer. As I also said in that post, dealers used to assiduously avoid calling an item an 'antique' unless it was demonstrably 100 years old. I don't know how many people on the board were into antiques 43 years ago, but I can assure you that back then, that was the way it was done. And ger, you are correct, phonographs were largely considered junk by the vast majority of dealers because they simply weren't old enough to be considered antique, and besides that, they were plentiful back then. I never used to look for phonos in the front rooms of antique shops -- I'd head straight to the back 'junk' rooms and there they'd be! re: pet peeves -- It bugs me when an eBay or Craigslist listing refers to a phonograph (or anything) as a "unit". "This unit works great." Also, "ones" . . . "This is one of the nicest ones I have ever seen" ("It doesn't look like the numeral one, it looks like a Victor VI to me," I'm thinking! Redundant, as well). And "guts", as in ". . . cabinet only, the guts have been removed". Are those really the best words they can come up with? "Specific is terrific," my third-grade teacher, Mes. Norlund, used to say when teaching us how to write. It took me a moment to figure out what "EAPG" meant right out of the barrel like that, but, the context and recalling what you had previously posted allowed me to figure it out pretty quickly. Mrs. Norlund also used to tell us, "Write like the reader doesn't know anything about what you are writing about." BTW, it is spelled 'Sumerian', not "Sumarian". LOL! Sorry, just had to kid you a little there! > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 02:05:14 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Phono-L] definition of "antique" > > For purposes of importation, the govt defined an "antique" as anything older than 100 years (an "antiquity" is much older, as in hundreds or thousands of years...Sumarian, ex.). This 100 years has been accepted for many moons as the definition of antique (everywhere except ebay, of course). I checked this definition on an official gov site at least 15 years ago. Obviously this involves a moving date of production. And I think that the 100-year mark is significant, because... > > Interest appears to take off when an invention/item is near its 100th anniversary. _______________________________________________ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
