I think the people that you talk about dont check what people ask in newsgroups or mailinglists.
These are the types of people that read some business mag to find the answers to their technical problems. And getting those business mags to write favourably about PHP is a totally different thing. There you have to advertise PHP as a complete solution (as someone else already mentioned: cluster and failover capabilities etc), that has a transparent vision (roadmap aka .. what is currently worked on - what can be expected for the next couple of months in terms of new stuff). There stuff like Zend or Maguma (I wonder why none of them read this list and said that they want to make PHP Enterprise ready ...) can help. And then you need to be lucky enough to have a guy writing that looks at the reality of things and not at what someone proclaims to be the latest buzz. Best regards, Lukas Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________ DybNet Internet Solutions GbR Reuchlinstr. 10-11 Gebäude 4 1.OG Raum 6 (4.1.6) 10553 Berlin Germany Tel. : +49 30 83 22 50 00 Fax : +49 30 83 22 50 07 www.dybnet.de [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -----Original Message----- > From: Björn Schotte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 4:59 PM > To: Rasmus Lerdorf > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP's vision > > * Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > > I find this argument not only > > stupid, but extremely offensive. > > I don't want to offense those people out there that use > PHP but don't know how to program at all. I only want to > share my observations I've made in the last year(s). As > already said, I don't have a solution to this problem, but > I only see the lacking of PHP's image because of these > effects. > > > use his unique knowledge to build a tool that solved his problem. > Stating > > that the language should be obfuscated to not allow the eye doctor to > > build this application is absolutely insane. > > I don't want to obfuscate PHP in order to not allow the > eye doctor to use PHP. > > Björn. > > -- > PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php