[..]

>> >Besides whos to say that
>> >adding debug_backtrace now to 4.3 won't steer more people to php
>> instead of other envrionments.
>>
>> I'm willing to be the first person to say this if no one beats me to
>> it...  Such a featurelet steering people to choose one
>> technology/platform  over the other?
>
>  In one case ive heard someone didn't choose php becuase it doesn't
> support MI.
> Now ive heard this from a "not very smart programmer" but that was the
> decision. I know that thats absoulty obsurde but something like php
> doesn't support backtraces may or maynot lean someone twards php. I konw
> this isn't the majority but maybe a handfull.

Ive taken systems which I would have prefered to have done in PHP away
from PHP (in that case I moved to Java for the stack tracing - because the
code was used so much inside itself it was impossible to bug trace -
especialy when the code was evaling heh).

PHP is my forte and I would have prefered to do it with the language I
know best and love. However - purely based on not having a backtrace I had
to move.

NOTE: At the time I was unaware of the existance of anything that could be
plugged into PHP to do this... and this was 5 months ago. However,
regardless of time frame - fact is that I moved because of the lack of a
feature... one that is availiable to us, but were not putting in out of
politics.

[..]

>  Obvisouly we all have our own opnion I wanted to state mine not get in
> a big
> argument about this. I do see your point, as a zend2 advocate, and im
> sure you see mine too, as a php user who wants debug_backtrace. So what
> to do, do you just call the shots or do we have an offical vote?

If there is a vote, Im +1 on the idea of a backtrace into the earliest PHP
release possible.

-- 
Dan Hardiker [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
ADAM Software & Systems Engineer
First Creative Ltd



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