Michael Kimsal wrote

> Tell me more about your thoughts on this please.

One of the strengths of PHP is the gentle learning curve. This means that a
lot of people are using it as their first programming language, and a lot of
the traffic on the lists, and the articles on the PHP sites, are at a pretty
basic level.

Nothing wrong with this, but it may give some the impression that PHP is not
a serious tool. If you lurk on Java/Ruby/Python/Rebol lists, as I sometimes
do, there is a lot of higher level discussion about how to get the best out
of the language, in architectural and design terms. I thought that a good
way to focus this kind of discussion would be debating and documenting
design and architecture patterns as applied to PHP.

I would have thought that this would be stimulating for the gurus, and
beginners like myself would learn a lot from watching the process.

And because the PHP solution will often be much simpler than the Java/C++
style solutions, it would be a good way to demonstrate the power of the
language to anyone considering adopting it for serious work.

Here is a paper documenting some procedural/relational patterns that might
give a sense of what I am suggesting:


Hope this is useful

Geoff Caplan

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