At 05:02 18/02/2002, Peter J. Schoenster wrote: >Well, as you said, no point in arguing. Just that I think if someone >really wants to develop they should learn some better tools than a >GUI but it's a question of balance.
That's quite an arguable point. I don't code PHP but C++ and Java, and I can say that I'm much more productive using an advanced GUI (Visual C++, IntelliJ IDEA) than I am using a text editor and aid tools. There are still things I do in a shell (diffing, grepping, patching, even tiny text edits), but to actually write big code portions, and/or refactor existing code portions, IDE's give you tools that simple text editors just don't. Of course, it's a matter of habits and taste, but saying that 'someone who really wants to develop should learn some better tools than a GUI' is simply bogus in my opinion. GUIs are better than text-mode tools in many ways, and text-mode tools sometimes get the job done quicker than GUIs. A good GUI would address >80% of your needs, and you can fill in the gap with the tools you were used to. Zeev -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php