Zeev, Didn't experience any stability problems with the beta per-se, but using a Windows box was an exercise in Unix-ification. Has the released version for Win32 seen significant alterations to the GUI?
=dn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeev Suraski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Chris Lott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 18 February 2002 15:57 Subject: Re: [PHP] zend studio 2.0 > Chris, > > Stability improved *a lot* since the beta in December. Remember, it *was* > a beta release, and like most betas, stability was not perfect. It's quite > good now, and it also got a whole new (well, mostly new) code completion > engine which is really revolutionary for PHP. > I'm not objective, obviously, but in my opinion, the integrated debugging > and the powerful code completion engine make the Zend Studio the > environment that gets the job done in the quickest way possible, way faster > than any text editor out there. We also think a lot about keyboard-only > users, so default focus locations and tab order, accessibility to all of > the functionality from the keyboard, etc. - are things which we worked on > quite a lot. There's always room for improvement, but it's pretty good in > 2.0.0 as it is. > > Much more is coming in upcoming versions - you guys are all more than > welcome to provide feedback about things you'd like to see in future > versions of the studio (www.zend.com/store/products/studio-feedback.php, or > by mailing me directly). > > Zeev > > At 03:12 18/02/2002, Chris Lott wrote: > >I hope we aren't going to get another chest-pounding "real coders" type of > >argument going here. Homesite *IS* a text editor. It provides an amazing > >number of shortcuts to tasks, including mouse-based tasks, many of which I > >guarantee you I can get done faster with a mouse than anyone can typing. It > >also offers a lot of pseudo-time-saving features as well, for which one > >would be better of learning to do it manually. But it isn't a GUI in any > >real sense as, say, Dreamweaver is. TextPad is at least as much of a GUI as > >Homesite in that respect. > > > >I use both of these great tools a lot... none of them are the stigmata of > >the under-developed programmer. People should use what they want, but don't > >dump on everyone who realizes that clicking a button or using a keyboard > >shortcut in something like Homesite or Textpad to create common HTML > >structures or PHP control structures is always going to be faster than > >typing them out by hand, no matter how craven a Notepad warrior one might > >be. > > > >Zend looks pretty good in terms of providing what I like in a development > >environment, particularly real debugging... unfortunately it was definitely > >not particularly stable when I last tried it in late December. > > > >Integrated debugging, syntax coloring, function reference, keyboard > >shortcuts-- these are all useful tools. TextPad has good PHP dictionaries, > >Homesite handles PHP well. Homesite is STILL the only editor I have found > >that enables an easy "preview through the server" mapping so that I can, > >with one touch toggle between my editing and the live code through my local > >development server, something that saves a lot of time vs jockeying between > >windows with other tools. > > > >Not all mouse use is just waving one's hands through the air, none of the > >programs mentioned are particularly mouse-centric. > > > >c > >-- > >Chris Lott > >http://www.chrislott.org/ > > > > > >-- > >PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > >To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
