On Tue, 12 Dec 2006, Dean Michael Berris wrote:

I'm actually not afraid that it's true because it is true: you can
modify any Hello, World program to pretty much do anything you want.
You're the one displaying FUD here: you're afraid that it's true! :P

Uh, it's also true that martians may invade the earth. Bwahaha!!!

You're engaging in the ultimate FUDmeister's troll. There's a teeny bit of truth that someone can get a Hello World program and turn it into a full-blown competitor to Oracle, but I wouldn't hold my breath! In just the same way, the earth could open up and swallow me whole when I cross the street. But hey, I'm crossing the street.

Knock off the scare tactics Dean. Byt he time a Hello World program becomes anyhting substantial for the government, it would either have borrowed enough FOSS code from more substantial programs or attracted a lot of financial investment. In other words, before it can even compete for a government contract, it is NO LONGER a Hello World program.


You just wish Manny... I think you're just stomped you just didn't
think of that before I did.

You're just plucking scenarois out of thin air, hoping that it will scare those who have no idea what kind of effort it takes to create production software. You're just trying to pull wool over our eyes, as usual.


But at any rate, the wording of the bill in its current form allows
it: the requirements are that the software be licensed under a FOSS
license. Unless there isn't any suitable FOSS already out there, only
then can we consider proprietary software. But wait, it can be shown
and proven that ANY GPLed Hello World program can be turned into
practically whatever you like: which is a big loophole whether you
like it or not.

Uh, no. The law,as you pointed out, clearly states that the FOSS software must be suitable, not potentially suitable after some MAJOR overhaul. A Hello World program won't qualify, as the law makes very clear. It's NOT suitable. There's no loophole anywhere, but there's a hole in your logic.


Any competent lawyer worth his salt can make this argument work.

Bwahaha, yeah right.


Wait, when the FOSS bill gets in, a piece of software being FOSS
already meets the requirements! READ THE BILL!!!

Uh, no. The bill DOES NOT say that. More FUD from you.


Dream on. Any competent lawyer worth his salt can make the "GPLed
Hello World Program for every requirement" stick.

FUD again. Let's see one try. I'm gonna enjoy this one!


Okay, spare us the FUD. You're the one displaying FUD here: you're
afraid that Proprietary Software really does some things better.

Uhm, putting words in my mouth. I challenge you to point out to me where is stated that proprietary software can never do anything better than FOSS.

Can't find one eh? Think first before shooting your mouth off, FUDsy.

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