> Secondly...please be advised: AMD processors are
> notorious for overheating problems.


this is true, but they're so much cheaper, even if you add the cost of
buying a good fan, or an additional case fan.

>
>
> The fan that came with the Athlon processor wasnt
> enough; i had to use Thermaltake Cu+ fans; still i had
> problems. Only after leaving the cpu casing open did
> the system show any sign of stability....but after
> years of getting my mobos p!$$d on by mice and rats,
> that sort of thing just dont fly. We ended up getting
> Intel P4s.
>

have you tried adjusting the core voltages of the CPU?  some motherboards
that auto-detect the core voltage, supply a higher value than what is stable
enough for the CPU.  kaya i prefer to use mobos with core voltage adjustment
features.  much better if their dip-switched than cmos controlled, i think.

my experience, most motherboards auto-detect the core voltage of an Athlon
Thunderbird at 1.8 volts!  whereas the standard operating voltage of the
chip is just at 1.6+ volts.  sometimes i can set it down to 1.55V for a
cooler operation (not overclocked).

>
>
> But hey, this is just my personal experience. If u
> still remain an AMD fan, then at the very least put
> the system through its paces: runs benchmarks and
> drive that cpu up to 100% utilization. If there are
> any AMD success stories out there, please do share
> your experiences! Make me an AMD convert B)
>
>

hmm.... so far I'm fortunate that i haven't had temp problems with the 50+
(from K62 to Morgan core) AMD-powered pc's that i assembled.  although i run
benchmark test on them, i only do it for a few hours.

well, i think the bottom line is, if you don't want an extra tweaking chore
in assembling a pc and you have the money to spare, the pentium is always
best, but it you're a semi-techie wanting to spend the money you saved in
buying other peripherals, AMD is always there for you.

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