On Sat, 2003-03-29 at 12:26, Victor wrote:
> 
> the _only_ reason i am interested in another list is that it might encourage 
> other 'rank-and-file' desktop users to shift to linux.  a list where the 
> topics are as mundane as favorite browser or office apps.  i imagine that 
> such a list would offer a psychologically relaxed, we're -all-mortals mindset 
> kind of list.
> 

AFAIK, and IIRC this and the newbie list have that we're all-mortals
mindset. if you think someone's saying something wrong, then refute --
and the same applies to everyone. if you think im saying something
wrong, tell me and everyone else - if i think you're wrong, ill do the
same.

we ARE all-mortals. maybe you're setting your mindset wrongly... ;)

> 
> i understand your reasons for opposing another list, and in most points, i 
> agree with you.  but please understand also that the motive for such a list 
> is just to encourage many other people to get into the fold, not to have an 
> easy, cheesy way to use linux.
> 

i think a mailing list is NOT the right venue for encourageing other
people "to get into the fold".

linux advocacy and promotion isn't effectively done via email, unless
you create a worm that will spread the mail to every frikin' mailbox in
the world regarding linux. still, in which way is not very effective not
to mention too crackerly.

i still think that advocacy is done best in person - mano-a-mano. of, en
masse in conferences, symposia, seminars, etc. the main purpose of the
mailing list is a venue for discussion of problems and possible
solutions, as well as the virtual social happenings like discussions on
certain topics - which need not be but would most probably be technical
in nature.

> just to save face,
> Victor

ok. like what the others have already said about this topic, 'go scratch
your own itch' to put it bluntly. you don't have to save face for
bringing a legitimate topic, which has solicited free (as in beer and
speech) responses.

if you think that a mailing list is really in order, i think yahoogroups
and the other free mailing list providers out there will be of most use
to you. and of course, you could invite everyone here too.

and btw, none of the discussions here are supposed to or intended to go
personal. well, at least it shouldn't go so unless it's really necessary
(like when answering personal questions, and personal technical
preferences and points).

just ask your questions, then hope they'd be answered. either here, or
at the newbie list.

peace out! =)

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