Quoting Victor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> the _only_ reason i am interested in another list is that it might
> encourage other 'rank-and-file' desktop users to shift to linux.  a
> list where the topics are as mundane as favorite browser or office
> apps.  i imagine that such a list would offer a psychologically
> relaxed, we're -all-mortals mindset kind of list.
> 
> but if that is tantamount to duplicating ph-linux-newbie, then it's
> ok.  its no big deal. maybe i am just too new to the list to realize
> what it offers.

It's actually a good thought, and might be worth a try.  But certainly
you might try ph-linux-newbie, too.

> even if my xandros box is working perfectly, i dared to dual boot it
> with debian woody just to learn the rudiments of debian, to see what
> xandros shielded me from. i encountered lots of problems but i have
> fun solving them.  that is not "click-and-run".

Truth to tell, Xandros Desktop OS _is_ Debian (in all senses that
matter).  Debian is an administrative architecture and maintenace
regime.  The particular installer you use to get onto that architecture
& regime doesn't really matter.  You could install it using Xandros CDs,
Knoppix, the Progeny Graphical Installer, Libranet, an LNX-BBC
mini-disc, _or_ the plain-vanilla Official Debian installer.  

But Xandros is a _perfectly_ good way to get a Debian system going (on
x86)

> just to save face,
> Victor

Honestly, there's nothing to save face over, here!

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