> BTW I can't think of any programming languages that are intuitive, not even 
> slightly.

so here's another way for us to think about this: Lindsay, if you
could dream up an intuitive-to-you programming paradigm, what would it
be? (a subtextual theory i wonder might be relevant/hilighted in such
a discussion is that i wonder how much of the non-intuitiveness of
programming is like the non-intuitiveness of anything that has to be
done rigorously to get solid results.)

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