On lundi, ao� 4, 2003, at 21:27 Europe/Paris, Paul Tansley wrote:
Yourself and William seem a little confused on this matter. Not in your opinions, which you are welcome to have, but in what mine is.
Unlikely, considering the lengths you have gone to to put them across.
I have no(snip)
interest in what anyone wants to call a negative/raw file/jpg/original/print
etc. etc. I really don't, I'm not a teacher or lecturer and never want to be
one.
I hope you don't take that as me being rude, I'm really not. Its just that
posts like Williams, where he says "I thought Shangara's reference to a RAW
file as a negative was very valuable" and "Personally I would prefer that
this was not devalued by applying the negative analogy to all digital
capture" referring to my previous post, really annoying.
Why? Because I wasn't in total agreement with you? Describing someone's post as 'really annoying' is rude, rude and annoying. I don't teach or lecture for a living, but over the last six years or so I have explained the basics of digital imaging/Photoshop to several photographer friends of mine. I know how confusing they found certain concepts, and how easily they would muddle things together, like Layers/Channels, Colour modes/Spaces/Profiles, etc. All I wanted to point out, for the benefit of anyone on this list (especially anyone wanting to explain file types to others), was how useful the negative/RAW comparison can be. That's what I picked up on in Shangara's reply, and why I thought it was worth the effort to comment on it. I wasn't trying to force you to change your way of thinking/terminology or whatever; call your JPEGs whatever you want.....
Its as if I was trying to write the rules of digital photography. I wasn't.
Not even a hint of a suggestion that possibly you were thinking of doing that. Must be the heat.
As for Graphic Converter, its a great piece of software and I was delighted to see Apple supporting the developer by including a licensed version with my G4 (or was it with OSX.2?). Before PS had SFW it was the best thing for producing slimmed down files for web/e-mail, and I still find myself using it's Convert function to delete resources from folders full of images. Well worth looking at, if you're on a Mac.
William Davies.
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