Boy, when it rains, it pours, for me...

There's a website we are contractually required to use for some reporting purposes. We can't access it. Firefox reports that it is connected to the site and waiting for data, and then it gives the "connection was reset" message.

Our internet connection is working fine and we can get to any other website we try.

The website itself is up; it can be reached from our location using another ISP, such as a cell phone broadband connection, or from my home computer which is about 12 miles away from here.

This website was reachable from our internet connection until sometime yesterday afternoon, at which time one other person, in a different part of the building, reported some temporary general connectivity problems. As a precaution, we rebooted the router that supplies internet to our network. This did not affect the problem.

Below is a tracert to the problem website, which is hosted by a provider near Albany, NY. We've done this tracert from several different computers in this building, at different times, and we get identical results. I see two anomalies in it that I don't understand. (However, I see similar anomalies in a tracert to our own website, which is accessible, and hosted by a different provider, also near Albany, NY). That tracert is also provided below.

Anomaly 1:

Why do we hop back from the ISP network to an address that would allegedly be on my private network in hop 3 (except that I have assigned nothing to that address and we don't even use that range for anything, although we do have a Class A network)?

Anomaly 2: What is the significance of the timeout at hop 5? (TWTelelcom is our provider; it was recently bought out by Level 3. So there is a timeout between segments of our provider's network, but as shown in the second tracert, two such timeouts in a row don't actually prevent a connection to our website.)

PROBLEM WEBSITE

Tracing route to 173-198-192-106.static.as40244.net [173.198.192.106]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.1.9.200
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 64-129-187-97.static.twtelecom.net [64.129.187.97]
  3     1 ms     3 ms     1 ms  10.208.121.21
4 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms nyc2-pr2-xe-0-3-0-0.us.twtelecom.net [66.192.242.253]
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
6 9 ms 15 ms 9 ms Cogent-level3-50G.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.62.26] 7 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms be2061.ccr42.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.69] 8 13 ms 18 ms 13 ms be2107.ccr22.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.94] 9 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms xe-2-3-0.edge1.ny01.as40244.net [38.104.52.90]
 10    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  te-1-0-1.corea.ny01.as40244.net [66.206.33.4]
11 16 ms 13 ms 14 ms xe-1-0-1.core110.ny01.as40244.net [66.206.33.92]
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.

Trace complete.

WORKING WEBSITE HOSTED BY DIFFERENT PROVIDER, SAME GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

Tracing route to cp-vps0.albyny.inoc.net [64.22.33.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.1.9.200
2 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 64-129-187-97.static.twtelecom.net [64.129.187.97]
  3     2 ms    <1 ms     1 ms  10.208.121.21
4 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms nyc2-pr2-xe-0-3-0-0.us.twtelecom.net [66.192.242.253]
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
7 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms INDEPENDENT.ear3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.28.130.18]
  8    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  e4-8-0.csr0.alb1.inoc.net [64.246.130.10]
  9    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  lagg0-40.fgc0.alb1.inoc.net [64.246.132.52]
 10    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  cp-vps0.albyny.inoc.net [64.22.33.10]

Trace complete.

Ken Dibble
www.stic-cil.org


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Boy, when it rains, it pours, for me...

There's a website we are contractually required to use for some reporting purposes. We can't access it. Firefox reports that it is connected to the site and waiting for data, and then it gives the "connection was reset" message.

Our internet connection is working fine and we can get to any other website we try.

The website itself is up; it can be reached from our location using another ISP, such as a cell phone broadband connection, or from my home computer which is about 12 miles away from here.

This website was reachable from our internet connection until sometime yesterday afternoon, at which time one other person, in a different part of the building, reported some temporary general connectivity problems. As a precaution, we rebooted the router that supplies internet to our network. This did not affect the problem.

Below is a tracert to the problem website, which is hosted by a provider near Albany, NY. We've done this tracert from several different computers in this building, at different times, and we get identical results. I see two anomalies in it that I don't understand. (However, I see similar anomalies in a tracert to our own website, which is accessible, and hosted by a different provider, also near Albany, NY). That tracert is also provided below.

Anomaly 1:

Why do we hop back from the ISP network to an address that would allegedly be on my private network in hop 3 (except that I have assigned nothing to that address and we don't even use that range for anything, although we do have a Class A network)?

Anomaly 2: What is the significance of the timeout at hop 5? (TWTelelcom is our provider; it was recently bought out by Level 3. So there is a timeout between segments of our provider's network, but as shown in the second tracert, two such timeouts in a row don't actually prevent a connection to our website.)

PROBLEM WEBSITE

Tracing route to 173-198-192-106.static.as40244.net [173.198.192.106]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.1.9.200
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 64-129-187-97.static.twtelecom.net [64.129.187.97]
  3     1 ms     3 ms     1 ms  10.208.121.21
4 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms nyc2-pr2-xe-0-3-0-0.us.twtelecom.net [66.192.242.253]
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
6 9 ms 15 ms 9 ms Cogent-level3-50G.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.62.26] 7 10 ms 11 ms 10 ms be2061.ccr42.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.69] 8 13 ms 18 ms 13 ms be2107.ccr22.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.3.94] 9 12 ms 12 ms 12 ms xe-2-3-0.edge1.ny01.as40244.net [38.104.52.90]
 10    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  te-1-0-1.corea.ny01.as40244.net [66.206.33.4]
11 16 ms 13 ms 14 ms xe-1-0-1.core110.ny01.as40244.net [66.206.33.92]
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 20     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 27     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 28     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 29     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 30     *        *        *     Request timed out.

Trace complete.

WORKING WEBSITE HOSTED BY DIFFERENT PROVIDER, SAME GEOGRAPHIC AREA.

Tracing route to cp-vps0.albyny.inoc.net [64.22.33.10]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  10.1.9.200
2 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 64-129-187-97.static.twtelecom.net [64.129.187.97]
  3     2 ms    <1 ms     1 ms  10.208.121.21
4 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms nyc2-pr2-xe-0-3-0-0.us.twtelecom.net [66.192.242.253]
  5     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
7 12 ms 11 ms 12 ms INDEPENDENT.ear3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.28.130.18]
  8    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  e4-8-0.csr0.alb1.inoc.net [64.246.130.10]
  9    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  lagg0-40.fgc0.alb1.inoc.net [64.246.132.52]
 10    12 ms    12 ms    12 ms  cp-vps0.albyny.inoc.net [64.22.33.10]

Trace complete.

Ken Dibble
www.stic-cil.org



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