The argument for gerund"n is this:

All partitioning modifiers (/. / ;.n etc,) support cyclic gerunds.  The
anomalous case is " which is the most basic partitioning modifier of all.
It should have been defined to support cyclic gerunds.

The proposal is to put it right without breaking any code.  m"n when m
resembles a gerund and n is not _ will be very rare, perhaps nonexistent,
in actual code.  For new code, m"_"n will work for any n.

Henry Rich

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:07 AM, 'Pascal Jasmin' via Programming <
programm...@jsoftware.com> wrote:

> the best solution I've seen,
>
>
> isgerund =: 0:`(0 -.@e. 3 : ('y (5!:0)';'1')"0)@.(0 < L.) :: 0:
>
>
> tests that each "box" can be passed to 5!:0 without error.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Bill <bbill....@gmail.com>
> To: "programm...@jsoftware.com" <programm...@jsoftware.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 9:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Jprogramming] Jx version 1.0 release
>
>
>
> J interpreter must know when a noun is a gerund, so is it possible to add
> a new primitive to test for gerund? Or is there already J script to test
> for gerund?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 3 Aug, 2017, at 3:36 AM, Henry Rich <henryhr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I expect to make some more improvements to dyad u"n, and eventually to
> > rewrite the monad to match the dyad.  My availability to work on this
> will
> > be intermittent for a while.  The 8.06 code as is works, and fixes a
> > long-standing bug reported by Martin Neitzel.
> >
> > I have suggested using m"n, where n is not _, to implement a cyclic
> gerund
> > m.  If m doesn't look like a gerund, it would be treated as a simple
> noun.
> > While this is not strictly compatible, I think it very unlikely that it
> > would break any existing code.  I think m"n was wrongly defined and that
> > this is the correct definition.  My opinion is not universally shared so
> I
> > haven't acted on it.
> >
> > Henry Rich
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Thomas Costigliola <fo...@iocane.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> You can try removing the conditional statement enclosing that line, but
> >> for now I would say the patch is broken under Clang. Since the rank code
> >> was completely rewritten in J805 and J806 and ":: is based on the J804
> rank
> >> with some unfinished updates Henry was working on, the real solution is
> to
> >> rewrite ":: based on the new rank code. But that should wait until the
> code
> >> is stable. Does anyone anticipate more changes?
> >>
> >> On a more philosophical note, ":: implements gerund left arguments that
> >> apply to the items cyclically. The reason for adding a new primitive and
> >> not extending ": is because it breaks using ": to define constant
> >> functions. If someone has any ideas to make them play nicely together
> then
> >> they can be merged into a single primitive. The issue is that there is
> no
> >> distinction between a noun and gerund.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> -Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >> On 08/02/2017 11:52 AM, bill lam wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, I use Clang and have -Werror -Wextra in CFLAGS.
> >>> Sometimes vs2013 is much less tolerant.
> >>>
> >>> Ср, 02 авг 2017, Thomas Costigliola написал(а):
> >>>
> >>>> That looks like Henry's code taken from cr.c at some older version. It
> >>>> compiles fine for me in GCC and Visual Studio 2013. It is in the
> >>>> implementation of "::, which seems to be working in my tests, so that
> >>>> code
> >>>> never gets hit. Are you using Clang? It's much less tolerant of code
> like
> >>>> that.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> -Thomas
> >>>>
> >>>> On 08/02/2017 11:21 AM, bill lam wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> When I tried to compile, but this line in best.c failed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>    *((I*)0)=0;  // scaf
> >>>>>
> >>>>> and I can not understand its intention, access to memory
> >>>>> address 0 should cause segfault.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Вт, 01 авг 2017, Jose Mario Quintana написал(а):
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> A brief description of the Jx v1.0 extensions, together with links
> to a
> >>>>>> Windows 64 bit dll, a Unix 64 bit so binaries and the patch
> >>>>>> corresponding
> >>>>>> to the J806 source can be found at,
> >>>>>> http://www.2bestsystems.com/foundation/j/jx1
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Summary
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Spelling
> >>>>>>    - Names with unicode characters
> >>>>>>    - Primitives
> >>>>>>        Added     =.. =:: $:: [. ]. ]: ".. ":: `. ?: i.. O.
> >>>>>>        Extended  ~ $.
> >>>>>>    - Foreign
> >>>>>>        Added     104!:5 Unnamed Execution
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> - Trains
> >>>>>>      a v    Added       (different from Jx v0)
> >>>>>>      a a    Extended    (different from Jx v0)
> >>>>>>      c a    Resurrected
> >>>>>>      a c a  Resurrected
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The Jx v0 page,
> >>>>>> http://www.2bestsystems.com/foundation/j/jx0
> >>>>>> will be removed in the near future
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Time permitting, there will be soon a script with assertions for
> those
> >>>>>> who
> >>>>>> want to verify binaries targeted for other platforms and I will try
> to
> >>>>>> illustrate the facilities in action with some scripts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Jose Mario Quintana <
> >>>>>> jose.mario.quint...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The patches, a Windows 32-bit DLL, a cheatsheet, 32 and 64 bit Unix
> >>>>>>> libraries are found at:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.2bestsystems.com/foundation/j/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For more details and demonstration code, see the article in the
> >>>>>>> Journal of
> >>>>>>> J: http://journalofj.com/index.php/vol-2-no-2-october-2013 (only
> the
> >>>>>>> definition of the new conjunction knot (`.) has been slightly
> >>>>>>> modified for
> >>>>>>> the release).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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