Sama dengan sang junjungan, sama-sama punya standar ganda.
--- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@...> wrote: > > > > filipina memang saat ini juara sebagai negara terkorup di asean. > menurut data transparency international terbaru, posisi filipina > ada di urutan 129 sebagai negara "paling tidak korup" dengan skor > 2.6, indonesia di urutan 100 dgn skor 3.0 (makin gede skornya > makin tidak korup). dengan kata lain, filipina memang > jauh lebih korup daripada indonesia. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index > tapi religiusitas rakyat filipina tidak perlu diragukan lagi. > mereka punya ritual yg mengerikan saat paskah, yaitu menyalib > orang dengan paku beneran. > si bleki keliatannya ngga tau kalo orang filipin itu mayoritas kresten. > > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/13/business/worldbusiness/13iht-peso.4891792.html > > By Carlos H. Conde > Published: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 > > MANILA Expatriate businessmen in Asia perceive the Philippines as the most > corrupt country in the region, according to a survey released Tuesday. > > Singapore was ranked as the least corrupt of the 13 economies surveyed, > followed by Hong Kong and Japan, according to the annual corruption survey > conducted by the Political and Economic Risk Consultancy, based in Hong Kong. > > "The Philippines has the distinction of being perceived in the worst light > this year," the survey stated. "People are just growing tired of the inaction > and insincerity of leading officials when they promise to fight corruption." > > The survey, conducted in January and February, queried 1,476 expatriate > executives in 13 countries and territories in Asia. The Philippines scored > 9.40, where a score of zero is the least corrupt and 10 is the most corrupt. > > In the 2006 survey, in which Indonesia was regarded as the most corrupt, the > Philippines scored 7.80. Indonesia improved its score to 8.03 this year, a > development that the report credits to a government anti-corruption campaign. > > The report noted, however, that for the Philippines, Indonesia and Thailand, > where corruption is systemic, "it is really splitting hairs to say which one > has a worse problem." > > "The Philippines has been getting the least amount of foreign direct > investment, and the level of foreign capital flowing to its stock market is > also less than in either Indonesia or Thailand," the report noted. > > To the question "How effective is the judicial system at prosecuting and > punishing individuals for corruption when abuses are uncovered?" the > respondents gave the Philippines a score of 9.06, with 10 being "ineffective." > > The poll is certain to rile President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, who has > claimed that her government's efforts against corruption are bearing fruit. > Arroyo hired Tony Kwok, an anti-corruption crusader from Hong Kong credited > for stamping out corruption in the Chinese territory, as an adviser in 2005. > > To the question "To what extent is corruption a deterrent to your willingness > to invest and expand your business?" the Philippines scored 8.50, with 10 > reflecting "a major deterrent." > > Local corruption monitors confirm that graft and bribery in the Philippines > remain rampant. Corruption has penetrated every level of government, from the > Bureau of Customs down to the traffic police officers who pull over motorists > to demand bribes. > > Nearly $2 billion dollars, or roughly 13 percent of the Philippines' annual > budget, is lost to corruption in the country each year, according to the > United Nations Development Program. > --- In [email protected], "Teddy S." <teddyr@> wrote: > > > > Ada contoh lagi Filipina. > > Orang Huawei bilang kalau orang-orang Filipina minta-minta duit sama mereka > > jumlahnya jauh lebih besar daripada orang-orang Indonesia. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "johny_indon" <johny_indon@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > kasian bener si bleki ini, wawasannya ngga lebih luas dari kolornya. > > > dia masih percaya dengan pemikiran primitif bahwa kemajuan sebuah negara > > > ada hubungannya dengan agama. > > > dia ngga tau kalo gereja2 di eropa itu sekarang kosong melompong > > > karena bule2 itu udah males nyembah2 patung di dalemnya. > > > dari 53% orang eropa yg masih percaya adanya tuhan, tentu saja ngga > > > semuanya kresten. > > > jadi seiring dengan kemajuan jaman, jumlah kresten di eropa justru makin > > > menyusut. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism > > > > > > According to a 2005 Eurostat Eurobarometer poll, 52% of European Union > > > citizens responded that "they believe there is a God", whereas 27% > > > answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force" > > > and 18% that "they do not believe there is a spirit, God, nor life > > > force". > > > > > > --- In [email protected], item abu <itemabu@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sejak Kristen berkembang dari reformasi gereja di Eropa, Eropa jadi > > > > maju, baik dr segi pengetahuan maupun segi peradaban. > > > >  > > > > Sebaliknya, sejak Islam berkembang di Timur Tengah, Afrika Utara dan > > > > Asia Selatan, pengetahuan mundur, orang2nya jadi biadab. Di beberapa > > > > abad pertama, memang msh ada perkembangan pengetahuan, krn merupakan > > > > sisa dr apa yg ada sebelumnya. Tp setelah itu, ga ada apa2 lagi sampe > > > > di abad ke 20 sebelum era minyak, di negara2 teluk Arab, kehidupan ga > > > > beda jauh dgn jaman barbar era Muhammad. Di Mekkah pusat islam itu > > > > misalnya, orang msh jualan budak. > > > >  > > > > Bahkan sekarang ini jg, di mana kebudayaan barat sdh banyak dikenal > > > > orang Arab, orang2 arab itu masih jg biadab dgn nindas cewek dan kafir, > > > > nganiaya tkw dll. > > > >  > > > > Apa keberhasilan Islam dlm peradaban? Ga lebih cuma ngebawa orang kr > > > > dunia biadab dan bejad. > > > >  > > > >  > > > > > > > > From: Musik hari Ini <musikhariini@> > > > > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > >Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 5:56 AM > > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] The sins of the fathers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Blek omonganlu kagak jauh bedanya dengan omongan kolonialis > > > > > > > > > >tempo doeloe buktinya kita makan taik 350 taon > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > >From: item abu <itemabu@> > > > > >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > >Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012 5:41 PM > > > > >Subject: Re: [proletar] The sins of the fathers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hehehe... Islam itu katanya ngatur segala aspek kehidupan, hukumnya > > > > >keras dsb dsb. Nyatanya, setelah sekian abad Islam ada di satu daerah, > > > > >orang2nya (jadi) biadab dan bejad. > > > > > > > > > >Lalu, apanya yg rahmatan lil alamin? Mana buktinya? > > > > > > > > > >Di Eropa, setelah reformasi gereja yg dilakukan oleh Martin Luther dan > > > > >yg lainnya, rakyat jadi mengenal agama Kristen, ga lagi "agama" > > > > >dimonopoli oleh gereja Katolik. Maka peradaban jadi membaik secara > > > > >umum, kebiadabn menurun, sains maju dsb. Sampe ke era dimana > > > > >liberalisme, feminisme, multiculturalisme dan segala macam BS nongol, > > > > >membuat perabadan mundur lagi spt apa yg tjd sekarang. > > > > > > > > > >Jadi agama Kristen sdh membuktikan pengaruh positifnya ke masyarakat. > > > > > > > > > >Lalu, apa pengaruh positif Islam ke masyarakat? Yg ada adalah makin > > > > >kuat Islamnya, makin biadab penindasan thd masyarakat dan makin goblok > > > > >masyarakatnya. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Sunny <ambon@> > > > > >>To: Undisclosed-Recipient@ > > > > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:08 AM > > > > >>Subject: [proletar] The sins of the fathers > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>http://www.dawn.com/2012/02/18/the-sins-of-the-fathers.html > > > > >>The sins of the fathers > > > > >>by Fahad Faruqui on February 18th, 2012 | Comments (24) > > > > >> > > > > >>Shakila was only eight-years-old when she and her cousin were > > > > >>abducted from their home. One night, men armed with AK-47s barged > > > > >>into her house and dragged her out as recompense for dishonoring an > > > > >>influential man in the district. > > > > >> > > > > >>You may wonder how a girl of such tender age could have dishonored a > > > > >>grown up? Well, she had nothing to do with the offense; the wealthy > > > > >>manâs wife, however, had eloped with Shakilaâs uncle. And the > > > > >>wealthy man wanted compensation the traditional way. > > > > >> > > > > >>The young girls were confined in a dark room for three months. After > > > > >>about six months, they were allowed to wash their clothes for the > > > > >>first time. For sustenance, they were provided bread and water every > > > > >>alternate day. And they were repeatedly beaten. > > > > >> > > > > >>âThey tortured us in a way that no human being would treat > > > > >>another,â Shakila said to the New York Times. > > > > >> > > > > >>Shakilaâs case is not a unique one when we talk of Afghanistan; > > > > >>young girls are given away to make up for the wrongdoings of others, > > > > >>including murder, adultery and anything thatâs not condoned by > > > > >>society. This custom dates back to jahiliyyah (the age of ignorance). > > > > >> > > > > >>âFor the nomads, there were no police, there was no court of law, > > > > >>no judge to organise the affairs of humans, so they resorted to the > > > > >>only things they had, which were violence and killing,â said > > > > >>Nasrine Gross, a sociologist, to the New York Times. > > > > >> > > > > >>âThen, when a problem doesnât get resolved, you offer the only > > > > >>things you have: livestock is more precious than a girl because the > > > > >>livestock you can sell, so you give two rifles, one camel, five sheep > > > > >>and then the girls they can sell this way,â she added. > > > > >> > > > > >>The prevailing norm in the pre-Islamic era was subsequently > > > > >>criminalised when Islamic laws were codified. And the reasoning for > > > > >>outlawing this barbaric method of attaining justice (so to speak) is > > > > >>obvious: a girl is not property that can be given away for slavery to > > > > >>settle the score for someone elseâs misdeeds. > > > > >> > > > > >>This cultural form of justice â" in which a girl is traded to settle > > > > >>the dispute â" is called âbaad.â The practice was deemed illegal > > > > >>as per the Elimination of Violence against Women Act of 2009, but it > > > > >>continues to prevail in Afghanistan. The reason given for the > > > > >>practice is the corruption in the legal system, due to which people > > > > >>resort to âjirgas,â where the local elders decide about what > > > > >>needs to be done. And, yes, giving away women to settle the dispute > > > > >>is in the cards. > > > > >> > > > > >>One canât say how common it is for girls to be traded to nullify > > > > >>the wrongdoings of someone else in the family. Even if a girl is > > > > >>married to a member of the aggrieved family, it doesnât mean that > > > > >>she wonât be maltreated. Taking a girl in marriage has the > > > > >>advantage of ensuring that the feud will not continue because, by > > > > >>hook or by crook, the two families become relatives. > > > > >> > > > > >>Shakilaâs cousin escaped. And the beatings intensified for Shakila. > > > > >>One day she managed to escape and reach her sisterâs house. The > > > > >>family was unable to recognise the malnourished Shakila. > > > > >> > > > > >>Whatâs most troubling is that the family is not against the > > > > >>practice â" this should give you a sense of how deep-rooted this > > > > >>tradition is in Afghanistan (and of course Pakistan). What troubled > > > > >>them was the fact that at birth she was promised in marriage to her > > > > >>cousin in Pakistan, hence she was not their âpropertyâ to give > > > > >>away. > > > > >> > > > > >>âWe did not mind giving girls,â Gul Zareen told the New York > > > > >>Times. âBut she was not mine to give.â > > > > >> > > > > >>The ordeal didnât end there for Shakila. > > > > >> > > > > >>The wealthy man ordered his men to search for her. The terrified > > > > >>family left their home in Naray, leaving behind their meager worldly > > > > >>possessions, including a cow and two goats. Theyâve now moved > > > > >>across Kunar province to the provincial capital of Asadabad. > > > > >> > > > > >>Shakilaâs father has no hope of returning home. > > > > >> > > > > >>Fahad Faruqui is a journalist, writer and educator. Alumni Columbia > > > > >>University. You can email him at fahad@ > > > > >> > > > > >>The views expressed by this blogger and in the following reader > > > > >>comments do not necessarily reflect the views and policies of the > > > > >>Dawn Media Group. > > > > >> > > > > >>Print This Post Email This Post > > > > >>24 Responses to " The sins of the fathers " > > > > >>1.. SALMAN EBRAHIM says: > > > > >>Yesterday at 6:30 pm > > > > >>I as a Muslim have following to confess: > > > > >>Many of our Muslim brethren are utterly confused about which code of > > > > >>conduct they should follow. The religion which they profess deeply or > > > > >>the traditions. Islam has nothing to do with whatever happened with > > > > >>the poor girl. If this goes on and on then it will be a mockery of > > > > >>the religion we are following. Islam is to practice and not to be > > > > >>heard again and again on the culprit of mosque listening to the Imam > > > > >>specially in Jummah prayers when we are deeply engross in listening > > > > >>to the practices of Prophet Mohammad (PUBH) His morality, His > > > > >>justices and love for children, and compassion for woman, after the > > > > >>sermon we come out of the mosque and get involve in our own culture. > > > > >>What a pity on us as ummah, shame on us. We are now left with our > > > > >>past glory, present confusions and grim future > > > > >> > > > > >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Post message: [email protected] Subscribe : [email protected] Unsubscribe : [email protected] List owner : [email protected] Homepage : http://proletar.8m.com/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/join (Yahoo! 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