What a huge mass of confusion this ATS nonsense has caused.  I now know
nothing about the future of Protel or its products,  whereas before all this
I *thought* I knew there was a PCB software provider that provided free
services packs and tech support, and I could choose whether or not and when
to upgrade.

There is no understanding where there was understanding before.  We have
gone from light into darkness.  The FUD is engulfing me...

Best regards,
Ivan Baggett
Bagotronix Inc.
website:  www.bagotronix.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Abd ul-Rahman Lomax" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Pricing


> At 02:48 PM 11/9/01 -0500, Sean James wrote:
> >Well everybody, Accel/PCAD did the same exact thing by changing their
> >pricing. Who owns Accel/PCAD and Protel?
>
> Yes, Altium, nee Protel, owns both. BUT the Accel pricing boost was while
> Accel Technologies was independent. It was my impression that Protel
> wrapped up the whole bundle of PCAD products, which used to sell for about
> $20K, and reduced the price to $9995. Bit I had not seen PCAD pricing
recently.
>
> So I called 'em up. First I talked to Protel sales, and I found out some
> *very* interesting information. It seems we may have been reading the
> announcement incorrectly. I should have called sooner. More about that
below.
>
> Then I asked about PCAD pricing. Yes, PCAD 2001 is still $9995. The
> original separate prices of all the units now included was $27K not
> including simulation. Protel tossed in CAMtastic and the simulation
package
> that used to sell for another $10K. So Accel under Protel/Altium ownership
> has drastically reduced prices. They also got rid of the dongle. I'm sure
> PCAD users were heartbroken over that.... :-)
>
> Now, to ATS for Protel. Today, you can buy from Accel Technologies (the
> U.S. Protel rep, we've gone full circle) the upgrade from Protel 98 to
> Protel 99SE for $1995. Essentially, a Protel 98 user can buy ATS for that
> price, and since ATS includes automatic upgrades, *the next version will
be
> included.*
>
> This is, if anything, a price *reduction.* Since July 1, the Protel 98 to
> Protel 99SE upgrade has been that same price, it was $1495 before that.
> Now, since October 1, it includes ATS for a year!
>
> Protel has not announced ATS or upgrade pricing for current Protel 99SE
> users. But if it was more than about $995, Protel would be *penalizing*
> users for upgrading to 99SE sooner than October 1. I don't think they are
> going to do that. From previous indications and history, I'm going to
guess
> that upgrade from Protel 99SE to the next release is going to be about
$995
> and it will include one year of ATS. The ongoing ATS price, I was told,
has
> not really been established, or if it has, it has not been announced to
sales.
>
>
>
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Abdulrahman Lomax
> Easthampton, Massachusetts USA


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