Ahhh yes, Phoenix...

    Does this mean it will never completely die, & that Phoenix will always stay in
the "Processes", after quitting, & by some miracle, 1 day, it will come back to full
life after trying to shutdown the PC?

____________
Brian Guralnick


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Saputelli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Weird behaviour & Free speech & shrink wrap


| maybe there is a distinction between first closing all the open
| documents and then closing the ddb as opposed to just closing the ddb
| with the documents open
|
| i swear that since following the above procedure i have not seen the
| problem of protel still running when it is in fact not still running in
| W2K
| (whereas i had seen it regularly before following this procedure)
|
| by saying this i do not mean to defend this aberrant behavior
| of course at this point there will be no more SP's or fixes, we have
| only Phoenix to hope and wait for (the very name is chilling in what it
| portends)
|
| today while buying another protel license i was told that Phoenix would
| be shipping in Q1
| i pointed out that Q1 was almost over and that i had heard no noises re
| beta testing
| ..
|
| in infoworld there was an article about certain shrink wrap licenses
| (major database stuff) curtailing the discussion of performance or
| benchmarking results
|
| apparently this is being taken to court as an abridgment of free speech
|
| if in fact phoenix is in beta and those testers have been enjoined from
| at least saying that they were beta testers then perhaps there is a
| potential problem there
|
| if it is not in beta and they are still talking Q1 release then i fear
| we are headed for trouble and may be enlisted as their paying beta crew
|
| i, for one, would be more happy with substantive incremental upgrades
| than these grandiose promises of all new software which will be hard to
| keep
|
| Dennis Saputelli
|
| Brad Velander wrote:
| >
| > Dennis,
| >         just to add to the knowledge, I 'almost' always close the ddbs
| > before shutting down Protel and quite often I still experience the Client99
| > process running at shut down.
| >
| > Sincerely,
| > Brad Velander.
| >
| > Lead PCB Designer
| > Norsat International Inc.
| > Microwave Products
| > Tel   (604) 292-9089 (direct line)
| > Fax  (604) 292-9010
| > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > http://www.norsat.com
| >
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