true for some programs, impossible for others. There are some CAD packages
which have limited time dongles, authorization codes, etc.  The following
year, when the code expires, they just tell you they don't support that
version any longer. Or if your old mahcine crapped out and you needed to get
a new one, there are os problems, driver problems and the CAD company tells
you they don't support the old version of their software on the newer
operating systems. I used to use an electromagnetic simulator called Sonnet
, which was giving users a yearly license. That was many years ago . Got
dissatisfied and gave up that particular CAD program. For everything that
works, Protel 99se sp6 included , I keep for each project a backup with not
only the project design files but the exact os and tools (cad, compilers etc
and their configuration files) versions . This habit has got me in the past
out of trouble repeatedly. CD's are literally a dime a dozen nowadays.


Matt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] OS bugs WAS: Problems with schematic annotate function.


> Very true, but for many of us, Protel is very reliable now. It never
crashes
> on me; it doens't trash my DDBs, etc.
>
> Why would you be 'forced' to upgrade? If you wanted to, you could still be
> running Orcad DOS, or Protel 2.8 or Easytrax. All that old stuff still
runs
> fine on old machines or newer machines. It's only the stupid PowerPCB type
> dongle expirations that prevent you from going on year after year.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mariusrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 11:32 AM
> > To: Protel EDA Forum
> > Subject: Re: [PEDA] OS bugs WAS: Problems with schematic annotate
> > function.
> >
> >
> > not to forget _reliability_. I want a tool that I don't need to
> > fix all the
> > time .That costs me more money than anything else . I would be
> > very upset if
> > my car stalled on a busy highway. I would be upset if my supplier didn't
> > finish my boards on time. I would be upset if my accountant didn't do
what
> > he was supposed to do. I am equally upset when I spend inordinate
> > amounts of
> > time and money on PC's, then pc upgrades, then os upgrades, then
software
> > upgrades, then driver upgrades, then more upgrades and patches to
> > cure some
> > of the problems the previous upgrades created. It is almost to the point
> > where it negates the benefits of automating the tasks at all .
> > As I said, computing raw power is quite enough for the trivial tasks of
> > schematic capture and pcb layout plus some simulations. CAD programs and
> > office applications had enough versions and revisions under their belt
to
> > implement most of the major functions I needed. I have workarounds for
> > what's still missing . All my cad programs started on slower machines
and
> > ran fine on win95/98/nt4 . Until I am absolutely forced by CAD software
> > unavailability for my existing platforms, and by technology
> > shifts , there's
> > no more upgrades for my company. Period.
> >
> > Best Reagrds,
> > Matt Tudor , MSEE
> > http://www.gigahertzelectronics.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bagotronix Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:39 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PEDA] OS bugs WAS: Problems with schematic annotate
> > function.
> > > Maybe you don't care about the OS, but do you care about privacy,
> > security,
> > > freedom, and fiscal responsibility?  MS is out to eradicate all of
these
> > in
> > > their OS plans for the future (WPA, Passport, Palladium, etc.).
> > >



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