Hello Daniel, I hope that you are being careful to not violate any non-disclosure agreements here.... I have used Protel to produce schematics and design boards for many years and find it an excellent and fair priced tool for the intended job. (occasional faults and problems along the way) I'm hoping that DXP will be a further improvement on 99SE, keeping all the features that make it intuitive to use and hopefully a better router, without adding glitzy bells and whistles to make it look more expensive. I feel that the majority of Protel's current customers would agree. I too am somewhat cautious about jumping into the next version, especially if any of the changes that you are suggesting come to fruition.
regards, Phil. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2002 09:29 To: 'Protel EDA Forum' Subject: Re: [PEDA] ATS - don't do it! (was restore defaults...) Regarding this discussion, I too will add my voice to those who feel upgrading to DXP and ATS is not a worthy investment at this point. I would have been much happier if the software had remained much the same as 99SE, but with greater functionality. Instead of building a whole new interface, it would be so much easier (and less expensive) if, for instance, Protel programmers had left the design rules dialogs as they were, but just increased the scope of filtering. Why we need to change all the basics of selecting objects, backing up files, global editing, etc. is beyond me. This is not something the customers were asking for. Many of those features that worked just fine in 99SE have been tampered with, altered, or outright destroyed in DXP. I smell a smoking gun, and see a Protel business manager jumping about frantically holding his wounded foot. I suggest Protel consider holding a customer think tank meeting, where several Protel experts (customers) are gathered into one room for a day or two to hammer out details on how the software should best work for customer requirements. The results would be a useful tool that captures ever greater portions of the EDA market share. On the other hand it appears as though some marketing managers and accountants at Protel met together and decided to give a new name to the company, mess up the product, and try and sell it to their unsuspecting customers for double the price. I for one, have advised my manager that we should hold off for another 12 months before considering upgrading. Hopefully by that time we shall see substantial improvements and a reasonable price. Daniel Tom, many of them will join us, they just keep it quiet. It would be probably better from our users' point of view if more people voiced their opinion. That would hopefully let them understand we are serious when we say 'We are not buying this anymore'. Igor I've been told by my boss that for what Altium are offering with ATS it's just not going to happen here. DXP is way out of the question. It's a pity that more people wont jump on this bandwagon. They'll just keep forking out hard earned money for defective software. Tom. ************************************************************************ * Tracking #: 5B367CDDE9318D4283BAB8267003C39AF07E5878 * ************************************************************************ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/proteledaforum@techservinc.com * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
