If he did, he isn't supposed to admit it on this list.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 5:32 PM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] ATS - don't do it! (was restore defaults...)
>
>
> do you know for a fact that the basics have all changed as you say here?
>
> do you have DXP?
>
> Dennis Saputelli
>
> Daniel Webster wrote:
> >
> > Regarding this discussion, I too will add my voice to those who feel
> > upgrading to DXP and ATS is not a worthy investment at this
> point. I would
> > have been much happier if the software had remained much the
> same as 99SE,
> > but with greater functionality. Instead of building a whole new
> interface,
> > it would be so much easier (and less expensive) if, for instance, Protel
> > programmers had left the design rules dialogs as they were, but just
> > increased the scope of filtering. Why we need to change all the
> basics of
> > selecting objects, backing up files, global editing, etc. is
> beyond me. This
> > is not something the customers were asking for. Many of those
> features that
> > worked just fine in 99SE have been tampered with, altered, or outright
> > destroyed in DXP. I smell a smoking gun, and see a Protel
> business manager
> > jumping about frantically holding his wounded foot. I suggest Protel
> > consider holding a customer think tank meeting, where several
> Protel experts
> > (customers) are gathered into one room for a day or two to hammer out
> > details on how the software should best work for customer
> requirements. The
> > results would be a useful tool that captures ever greater
> portions of the
> > EDA market share. On the other hand it appears as though some marketing
> > managers and accountants at Protel met together and decided to
> give a new
> > name to the company, mess up the product, and try and sell it to their
> > unsuspecting customers for double the price. I for one, have advised my
> > manager that we should hold off for another 12 months before considering
> > upgrading. Hopefully by that time we shall see substantial
> improvements and
> > a reasonable price.
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > many of them will join us, they just keep it quiet. It would be probably
> > better from our users' point of view if more people voiced
> their opinion.
> > That would hopefully let them understand we are serious when we
> say 'We are
> > not buying this anymore'.
> >
> > Igor
> >
> > I've been told by my boss that for what Altium are offering
> with ATS it's
> > just not going to happen here. DXP is way out of the question.
> >
> > It's a pity that more people wont jump on this bandwagon.
> They'll just keep
> > forking out hard earned money for defective software.
> >
> > Tom.
> >
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