Vincent,

My two bit(che)s in reply: See inserts

Igor

-----Original Message-----
From: vincent mail [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, 2 August 2002 6:42 AM
To: Protel EDA Forum
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence
offer! !!!




Darryl Newberry wrote:

>Ah, but does Cadence offer semi-functional, non-extensible, and pathetically
>sloooow 3D viewing? Or automated online submission of your precious 
>
Get a PIV-2.53 ghz with a gig of RDRAM  If you want realtime 3d  play 
quake or doom or duke nukem. Board layout is not about 3d viewing.

Bit(ch) 1: We have a purposeful 3D interface between Protel and our Mech CAD. It is 
not Protel 3D, but it is 3D and can't live without it.

>design data to dozens of unknown PCB vendors? Or half-assed SPICE and SI simulations 
>that make your entire computer system unusable for other tasks? Does it offer a 
>proprietary (but broken) multi-user sharing and permissions scheme? How about metric 
>conversion that changes your XY locations without
>
use imperial like the rest of the world.

Bit(ch) 2: Are you joking? Where is your Smiley sign? Which world do you live in?

>
>warning? Limitation of 16 hole sizes in the drill table? 
>
>All these benefits and more are yours with Protel....and probably with DXP
>too! 
>
>IMO Specctra kicks all kinds of major bootay. No comparison to anything else I've 
>ever seen. Even using default settings the route quality is comparable to manual 
>design. 
>
peuuuut  . wrong answer. i'll get you a couple of 5.4 GHz strip line 
designs and we'll see how good your router does on them.

>If you make your daily living routing PCBs (note that I don't), I'm sure Specctra 
>will easily pay for itself in reduced layout time, with the caveat that you have to 
>become expert at scripting (DO files) to get the most out of it.
>
autorouters suck . including specctra. they can't even route a ingle 
sided board decently . they are great for all digital boards. analog 
noise sensitive precision electronics . no way jose !

>BTW, anybody going to join Altium's DXP list? I bet the real reason they are
>creating their own list is so THEY can filter and control the distribution.
>I prefer to bitch here in a public forum where the world can read about it. 
>
well , feel free to bitch about this email too if it makes you feel happier

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