Tony, You may have a point there because their release also coincided with the release of PADS 5.0 Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter Sweep > This is pure conjecture, but I have a feeling they got DXP out the door > to meet a business requirement, not an engineering requirement. (Hey, if > us engineers were in control, we'd probably never ship anything due to > feature creep and trying to perfect things, so I can see the money side > of those decisions. > > I would guess they Protel is very active right now at getting out the > first service pack ASAP. I bet they timed when the first SP would be > released to the time people had the CD in their hands and had a list of > complaints about this wide <--------------------------> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Hutcheson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:42 PM > To: Tim Hutcheson; Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter > Sweep > > > Additional note: Problem is related to the fact that the "Sheets to > Netlist" was set to "Active project" for the project when I started DSP. > When I switch to "Active sheet", which is what I meant to simulate, the > signals in the "Available Signals" list do not change to reflect the > active sheet but remain as they were. However, if I run the simulation > anyway, the simulation runs fine, absent the changes I would have made > if I could pick correct signals. When the simulation finishes the > Active signals are correctly displaying the signals of the active sheet > and I can setup the desired Parameter Sweep selections. > > Hope that clears up my last post. > > More bad news though: When I tried to do a Secondary sweep with a > negative step, it flashed a message that looked like it might have been > the previously mentioned error message about using positive step instead > and promptly locked up the program. Had to kill it with task manager. > > Ouch! Hope my upgrade that I just ordered is a different version than > the demo!!!!! > > > regards, > > Tim Hutcheson > Research Associate > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition > University of West Florida > 40 S. Alcaniz St. > Pensacola, FL 32501 > USA > 805-202-4461 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Hutcheson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 3:10 PM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: RE: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter > Sweep > > > One obvious problem with DXP is that not all of the Active Signals show > up in the signal lists after a change. I'm looking at the lists now and > the schematic. I have a resistive element called Rtactor which is part > of the load and it doesn't appear in the list but another resistor > called Rlim does. Setup is "Collect Data For Active Signals", Sheets to > Nelist Activeis "Active sheet", SimView Setup "Show Active Signals". > Hard to pick them for Parameter Sweep when they aren't in the drop-down > pick list! > > Solution: Run the simulation once and then come back to the dialog - > All the signals are now there! So there is an initialization problem - > if you change anything in the shcematic that changes signal names, you > have to remember to run the sim once to flush the signal names through, > then setup the sweep again. > > > SoWorks fine with 99SE though. > > regards, > > Tim Hutcheson > Research Associate > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition > University of West Florida > 40 S. Alcaniz St. > Pensacola, FL 32501 > USA > 805-202-4461 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rolf Molitor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 2:58 AM > To: Protel EDA Forum > Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter > Sweep > > > I am interested in the other problems you found working with the DXP > simulator. Can you give us some hints ? > > Rolf Molitor > Ing.Buero i2e > Remscheid / Germany > > -----Urspr ngliche Nachricht----- > Von: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > An: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. August 2002 20:39 > Betreff: Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter > Sweep > > > > :-) > > > > Furthermore, when I tried your "suggestion" after lunch (restarted > > DXP), > the > > inductor L1 that I wanted to sweep was no longer listed in the > > secondary sweep drop down pick list! So I suspect the program is AI > > (clairvoyant) > and > > protecting itself from such impertinent suggestions. > > > > Seriously, there are more than a few problems in the demo package, > > especially in the area of the simlator. But overall I like the human > > interface of the DXP simulation a little better as it is easier to > > compose charts for printing, etc. > > > > regards, > > > > Tim Hutcheson > > Research Associate > > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition > > University of West Florida > > 40 S. Alcaniz St. > > Pensacola, FL 32501 > > USA > > 805-202-4461 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:52 AM > > To: Protel EDA Forum > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in > > Parameter Sweep > > > > > > Try setting it to zero. Then it will probably say "step must not be > > zero" > > ;-) > > > > If it doesn't say that, run your simulation with a step value of zero, > until > > such time you feel you must hit ctrl-alt-del and kill the process. > Because > > it should run forever... > > > > So much for input validation... > > > > Best regards, > > Ivan Baggett > > Bagotronix Inc. > > website: www.bagotronix.com > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "peda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:42 PM > > Subject: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter > > Sweep > > > > > > > I just tried to run a simulation that included parameter sweep. > > > When I > > try > > > to set a positive "Secondary Step Value" it says "step must be less > > > than zero". If I then try to set a negative step, it says it must > > > be > > positive!! > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Tim Hutcheson > > > Research Associate > > > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition > > > University of West Florida > > > 40 S. 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