Tony,
You may have a point there because their release also coincided with the
release of PADS 5.0
Joe



----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Karavidas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Protel EDA Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter
Sweep


> This is pure conjecture, but I have a feeling they got DXP out the door
> to meet a business requirement, not an engineering requirement. (Hey, if
> us engineers were in control, we'd probably never ship anything due to
> feature creep and trying to perfect things, so I can see the money side
> of those decisions.
>
> I would guess they Protel is very active right now at getting out the
> first service pack ASAP. I bet they timed when the first SP would be
> released to the time people had the CD in their hands and had a list of
> complaints about this wide  <-------------------------->
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Hutcheson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:42 PM
> To: Tim Hutcheson; Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter
> Sweep
>
>
> Additional note: Problem is related to the fact that the "Sheets to
> Netlist" was set to "Active project" for the project when I started DSP.
> When I switch to "Active sheet", which is what I meant to simulate, the
> signals in the "Available Signals" list do not change to reflect the
> active sheet but remain as they were.  However, if I run the simulation
> anyway, the simulation runs fine, absent the changes I would have made
> if I could pick correct signals.  When the simulation finishes the
> Active signals are correctly displaying the signals of the active sheet
> and I can setup the desired Parameter Sweep selections.
>
> Hope that clears up my last post.
>
> More bad news though:  When I tried to do a Secondary sweep with a
> negative step, it flashed a message that looked like it might have been
> the previously mentioned error message about using positive step instead
> and promptly locked up the program.  Had to kill it with task manager.
>
> Ouch!  Hope my upgrade that I just ordered is a different version than
> the demo!!!!!
>
>
> regards,
>
> Tim Hutcheson
> Research Associate
> Institute for Human and Machine Cognition
> University of West Florida
> 40 S. Alcaniz St.
> Pensacola, FL 32501
> USA
> 805-202-4461
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Hutcheson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 3:10 PM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: RE: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter
> Sweep
>
>
> One obvious problem with DXP is that not all of the Active Signals show
> up in the signal lists after a change.  I'm looking at the lists now and
> the schematic.  I have a resistive element called Rtactor which is part
> of the load and it doesn't appear in the list but another resistor
> called Rlim does.  Setup is "Collect Data For Active Signals", Sheets to
> Nelist Activeis "Active sheet", SimView Setup "Show Active Signals".
> Hard to pick them for Parameter Sweep when they aren't in the drop-down
> pick list!
>
> Solution:  Run the simulation once and then come back to the dialog -
> All the signals are now there!  So there is an initialization problem -
> if you change anything in the shcematic that changes signal names, you
> have to remember to run the sim once to flush the signal names through,
> then setup the sweep again.
>
>
> SoWorks fine with 99SE though.
>
> regards,
>
> Tim Hutcheson
> Research Associate
> Institute for Human and Machine Cognition
> University of West Florida
> 40 S. Alcaniz St.
> Pensacola, FL 32501
> USA
> 805-202-4461
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rolf Molitor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 2:58 AM
> To: Protel EDA Forum
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter
> Sweep
>
>
> I am interested in the other problems you found working with the DXP
> simulator. Can you give us some hints ?
>
> Rolf Molitor
> Ing.Buero i2e
> Remscheid / Germany
>
> -----Urspr ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> An: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. August 2002 20:39
> Betreff: Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter
> Sweep
>
>
> > :-)
> >
> > Furthermore, when I tried your "suggestion" after lunch (restarted
> > DXP),
> the
> > inductor L1 that I wanted to sweep was no longer listed in the
> > secondary sweep drop down pick list!  So I suspect the program is AI
> > (clairvoyant)
> and
> > protecting itself from such impertinent suggestions.
> >
> > Seriously, there are more than a few problems in the demo package,
> > especially in the area of the simlator.  But overall I like the human
> > interface of the DXP simulation a little better as it is easier to
> > compose charts for printing, etc.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Tim Hutcheson
> > Research Associate
> > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition
> > University of West Florida
> > 40 S. Alcaniz St.
> > Pensacola, FL 32501
> > USA
> > 805-202-4461
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bagotronix Tech Support [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:52 AM
> > To: Protel EDA Forum
> > Subject: Re: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in
> > Parameter Sweep
> >
> >
> > Try setting it to zero.  Then it will probably say "step must not be
> > zero"
> > ;-)
> >
> > If it doesn't say that, run your simulation with a step value of zero,
> until
> > such time you feel you must hit ctrl-alt-del and kill the process.
> Because
> > it should run forever...
> >
> > So much for input validation...
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Ivan Baggett
> > Bagotronix Inc.
> > website:  www.bagotronix.com
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tim Hutcheson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "peda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:42 PM
> > Subject: [PEDA] DXP: Unable to set secondary step Value in Parameter
> > Sweep
> >
> >
> > > I just tried to run a simulation that included parameter sweep.
> > > When I
> > try
> > > to set a positive "Secondary Step Value" it says "step must be less
> > > than zero".  If I then try to set a negative step, it says it must
> > > be
> > positive!!
> > >
> > > regards,
> > >
> > > Tim Hutcheson
> > > Research Associate
> > > Institute for Human and Machine Cognition
> > > University of West Florida
> > > 40 S. Alcaniz St.
> > > Pensacola, FL 32501
> > > USA
> > > 805-202-4461
> > >
> > >
> > > ********************************************************************
> > > ****
> > > * Tracking #: E9AEDF1F784B924CBDA581810BF9A19FB415138E
> > > *
> > >
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> > >


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