I might jump on the DXP Bandwagon by the end of the year.    Dropping ATS,
release of SP2, and the reduction of price is attractive.    My only concern
at this point   [IS sch$PCB (selection)  = 99 + Sp6]      pun intended.   I
have followed the DXP forum and am not particularly happy that inclusive to
all of the IPC stuff I have to learn, and the stuff  I don't know yet,  now
I have to learn query language to do global edits.    I read some very
negative email on this subject.   I hope Protel will change this back to the
way it currently works , but have not seen any comment from Altium that they
are listening to this request.

Mike Reagan
EDSI




----- Original Message -----
From: JaMi Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Protel EDA Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: JaMi Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium offers


> Ivan,
>
> I didn't get a brochere, but I did get an email that contained the
following
> offers that expire Dec 31st. Some of them seem similar to what you
received,
> but there appear to be some that are different, with different prices.
While
> I would guess that this offer went out to all registered Protel and DXP
> owners (licensees), I will copy it here on the chance that it did not, or
> that there are users out there that may be contemplating buying their own
> license.
>
> Respecting the last comment above, I know someone that just bought P99SE
and
> DXP at a substantial discount due to the fact that he had an old OrCAD
> Capture License that he was thinking about upgrading, so anyone thinking
> about buying anything from Protel / Altium might want to look at "OFFER 1"
> below very carefully, as you may save a few sheckles on purchacing P99SE
or
> DXP. You may even be able to combine "OFFER 1" with some of the other
> offers.
>
> I would strongly recommend to anyone or any company who is a new Altium /
> Protel customer thinking of buying DXP, to make sure that they get Protel
99
> SE for free in the deal, since it may be hard for you learn to drive DXP
or
> to hire someone with DXP experience, whereas it is much easier to drive
> Protel 99 SE or hire someone with Protel 99 SE experience, while both you
> and Altium / Protel are comming up to speed on DXP.
>
> JaMi
>
> * * * * * * * * * *
>
> The "Subject" heading of the email was "Last chance to save on Protel,
P-CAD
> and nVisage", and the body of the text was as follows:
>
> There has never been a better time to start designing with Altium's
> comprehensive design systems. Before December 31st, you can take advantage
> of a range of exiting offers that will put you at the leading edge in
2003.
> Offers are available on the following products:
>
> Protel DXP - Complete board-level design system
> P-CAD 2002 - Specialized board layout tools for PCB professionals
> nVisage DXP - Multi-dimensional design capture and verification system
>
> OFFER 1 - Up to 50% discount on new licenses
> Replace your current board design package with Protel DXP or P-CAD 2002
and
> save up to 50%.
> Visit http://www.altium.com/products/specialoffers.htm
>
> OFFER 2 - nVisage 'Buy and Try' offer
> Upgrade from any eligible schematic entry package to nVisage DXP for just
> $995* (retail value $2,995*). Along with complete design capture and
> verification capabilities, take advantage of an extended 90-day money-back
> guarantee! Visit http://www.nvisage.com/switch/index.html
>
> OFFER 3 - Protel '2-for-1' offer
> Purchase a new Protel DXP license and upgrade your Protel full suite or
> eligible competing design system to Protel DXP free of charge (save up to
> $3,995*). Visit http://www.protel.com/specialoffers/dxpupgrade.htm
>
> OFFER 4 - Protel 99 SE to DXP migration pack
> If you are not ready to upgrade to Windows XP/2000 and are using Windows
NT,
> 98 or 95, don't let your older operating system hold you back! Start
> designing with Protel 99 SE today and receive a free upgrade to Protel
DXP.
> Visit http://www.protel.com/migration/
>
> OFFER 5 - Protel 99 'XTRA'
> A limited budget need not be a barrier to professional design results.
With
> the Protel 99 'XTRA' pack you get Protel 99 SE Schematic, PCB and the
> shape-based autorouter for just $4,995*.
> Visit http://www.protel.com/protel99xtra/
>
> These offers are strictly limited to December 31st, 2002. So contact your
> local Altium Sales and Support Center today at 858-485-4600 or at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and find out how Altium can make electronics design
> easier for you in 2003!
>
> * * * * * * * * * *
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bagotronix Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:11 AM
> Subject: [PEDA] Altium offers
>
>
> > Hello, all:
> >
> > I just got a brochure from Altium with all their *limited time only* new
> and
> > upgrade offers.  I see that they are offering (until Dec. 31, 2002):
> >
> > 1) new Protel DXP for $7995
> > 2) new Protel 99SE with free upgrade to DXP as soon as you change your
OS
> > from Win98/NT to 2000/XP, for $7995
> > 3) new Protel DXP '2 for 1' for $7995 to users of full Protel suite or
> > eligible competing design systems
> > 4) PCAD 2002 for $9995
> >
> > But they fail to say what the *regular* price is.  So I have no idea of
> how
> > much I would be saving by buying before Jan. 1.  Anyone know what the
> > regular price for these is supposed to be?
> >
> > Why is PCAD higher?  Better yet, why is it still around?  I thought the
> > whole purpose of consolidation was to reduce costs by streamlining
product
> > lines.  What can PCAD do that Protel cannot?  And vice versa?
> >
> > They are also offering what seems like a better deal, Protel 99 XTRA,
> which
> > is just 99SE SCH, PCB, and the autorouter, for $4995.  Now that I think
> > about, that's what full Protel used to cost!
> >
> > nVisage DXP schematic capture, Spice sim, VHDL sim and synth.  Guess
which
> > ONE of these features folks will buy it for?  $2995 is way too much IMO
> for
> > that ONE feature.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Ivan Baggett
> > Bagotronix Inc.
> > website:  www.bagotronix.com
> >
> >
> >
>


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