I might jump on the DXP Bandwagon by the end of the year. Dropping ATS, release of SP2, and the reduction of price is attractive. My only concern at this point [IS sch$PCB (selection) = 99 + Sp6] pun intended. I have followed the DXP forum and am not particularly happy that inclusive to all of the IPC stuff I have to learn, and the stuff I don't know yet, now I have to learn query language to do global edits. I read some very negative email on this subject. I hope Protel will change this back to the way it currently works , but have not seen any comment from Altium that they are listening to this request.
Mike Reagan EDSI ----- Original Message ----- From: JaMi Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Protel EDA Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: JaMi Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [PEDA] Altium offers > Ivan, > > I didn't get a brochere, but I did get an email that contained the following > offers that expire Dec 31st. Some of them seem similar to what you received, > but there appear to be some that are different, with different prices. While > I would guess that this offer went out to all registered Protel and DXP > owners (licensees), I will copy it here on the chance that it did not, or > that there are users out there that may be contemplating buying their own > license. > > Respecting the last comment above, I know someone that just bought P99SE and > DXP at a substantial discount due to the fact that he had an old OrCAD > Capture License that he was thinking about upgrading, so anyone thinking > about buying anything from Protel / Altium might want to look at "OFFER 1" > below very carefully, as you may save a few sheckles on purchacing P99SE or > DXP. You may even be able to combine "OFFER 1" with some of the other > offers. > > I would strongly recommend to anyone or any company who is a new Altium / > Protel customer thinking of buying DXP, to make sure that they get Protel 99 > SE for free in the deal, since it may be hard for you learn to drive DXP or > to hire someone with DXP experience, whereas it is much easier to drive > Protel 99 SE or hire someone with Protel 99 SE experience, while both you > and Altium / Protel are comming up to speed on DXP. > > JaMi > > * * * * * * * * * * > > The "Subject" heading of the email was "Last chance to save on Protel, P-CAD > and nVisage", and the body of the text was as follows: > > There has never been a better time to start designing with Altium's > comprehensive design systems. Before December 31st, you can take advantage > of a range of exiting offers that will put you at the leading edge in 2003. > Offers are available on the following products: > > Protel DXP - Complete board-level design system > P-CAD 2002 - Specialized board layout tools for PCB professionals > nVisage DXP - Multi-dimensional design capture and verification system > > OFFER 1 - Up to 50% discount on new licenses > Replace your current board design package with Protel DXP or P-CAD 2002 and > save up to 50%. > Visit http://www.altium.com/products/specialoffers.htm > > OFFER 2 - nVisage 'Buy and Try' offer > Upgrade from any eligible schematic entry package to nVisage DXP for just > $995* (retail value $2,995*). Along with complete design capture and > verification capabilities, take advantage of an extended 90-day money-back > guarantee! Visit http://www.nvisage.com/switch/index.html > > OFFER 3 - Protel '2-for-1' offer > Purchase a new Protel DXP license and upgrade your Protel full suite or > eligible competing design system to Protel DXP free of charge (save up to > $3,995*). Visit http://www.protel.com/specialoffers/dxpupgrade.htm > > OFFER 4 - Protel 99 SE to DXP migration pack > If you are not ready to upgrade to Windows XP/2000 and are using Windows NT, > 98 or 95, don't let your older operating system hold you back! Start > designing with Protel 99 SE today and receive a free upgrade to Protel DXP. > Visit http://www.protel.com/migration/ > > OFFER 5 - Protel 99 'XTRA' > A limited budget need not be a barrier to professional design results. With > the Protel 99 'XTRA' pack you get Protel 99 SE Schematic, PCB and the > shape-based autorouter for just $4,995*. > Visit http://www.protel.com/protel99xtra/ > > These offers are strictly limited to December 31st, 2002. So contact your > local Altium Sales and Support Center today at 858-485-4600 or at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and find out how Altium can make electronics design > easier for you in 2003! > > * * * * * * * * * * > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bagotronix Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 11:11 AM > Subject: [PEDA] Altium offers > > > > Hello, all: > > > > I just got a brochure from Altium with all their *limited time only* new > and > > upgrade offers. I see that they are offering (until Dec. 31, 2002): > > > > 1) new Protel DXP for $7995 > > 2) new Protel 99SE with free upgrade to DXP as soon as you change your OS > > from Win98/NT to 2000/XP, for $7995 > > 3) new Protel DXP '2 for 1' for $7995 to users of full Protel suite or > > eligible competing design systems > > 4) PCAD 2002 for $9995 > > > > But they fail to say what the *regular* price is. So I have no idea of > how > > much I would be saving by buying before Jan. 1. Anyone know what the > > regular price for these is supposed to be? > > > > Why is PCAD higher? Better yet, why is it still around? I thought the > > whole purpose of consolidation was to reduce costs by streamlining product > > lines. What can PCAD do that Protel cannot? And vice versa? > > > > They are also offering what seems like a better deal, Protel 99 XTRA, > which > > is just 99SE SCH, PCB, and the autorouter, for $4995. Now that I think > > about, that's what full Protel used to cost! > > > > nVisage DXP schematic capture, Spice sim, VHDL sim and synth. Guess which > > ONE of these features folks will buy it for? $2995 is way too much IMO > for > > that ONE feature. > > > > Best regards, > > Ivan Baggett > > Bagotronix Inc. > > website: www.bagotronix.com > > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
