Steve, I hope that the long thread of responses in the DXP forum helped you get your problem resolved with your system.
Reading the posts gave me pause to think about a few things regarding my own computer systems, and I thought that I would share some of those thoughts here in the forums, which are not necessarily related to your problem or post, but related to the many problems and crashes that I myself have had in the past, and the many other similar problems and responses posted here in the forums by both I myself and others who have had problems with our systems and different combinations of software installed on them. The following are my conclusions that apply to me and what I need to keep in mind in keeping my own house in order. I thought that I would share them here in the various Protel forums simply to supply some food for thought for others who may be in situations similar to myself. Protel 99 SE had a List Price of $8,000.00. Protel DXP currently has a List Price of $8,000.00. Irrespective of whatever special package deals or upgrade offers anyone may have gotten, or which version of the software anyone may be using, the fact remains that Protel is an $8,000.00 software package. That very expensive software package was purchased for the purpose of making money, by way of making Printed Circuit Boards (or programming ASICs). Whether by direct consulting, or performing a job for an employer, the Protel software package is basically used as a source of income. Some of this income is secondary income, but most of it is primary income. The bottom line, plain and simple, is that Protel is an $8,000.00 software package that I rely on for my livelihood. The reliability of the Protel software package, and the related libraries (both those supplied with Protel and especially those that I have developed myself), and related databases, especially of schematics or PCB designs (whether past (completed projects or Boards), current (in process), or future (those that I have yet to do)), and related files, when all considered as a whole, especially when considered in terms of capabilities and requirements in terms of performing the task of earning that income, whether primary or secondary, represent far far more that a mere $8,000.00 investment in piece of software on a CD ROM and the License that comes with it. This is especially true when one considers the amount of actual time one either has invested in their own Protel "Machine / Toolbox", or the amount of time that they stand to loose should anything happen to that "Machine / Toolbox" which would require its replacement or its repair. By "Machine / Toolbox", I mean not only the software itself, but also all of the other things that have gone into having the ability to use Protel to "produce" the end product of "income". One of the smaller components of that Protel "Machine / Toolbox", is of course a computer system, which is needed in order to be able to use the Protel software package itself. Even the very best of computer systems available today, including the hardware, the operating system, and the monitor, will still come out to less than half of the original cost of the Protel software itself, in terms of price, at about $4,000.00. In reality, most people can put together an excellent system on which to run Protel for much less at around one eighth the of cost, or $1,000.00. Computers systems to do other tasks, whatever they may be, such as email, browsing the internet, playing games, burning a CD or listening to one, or even programming, can all be done on last years machine, with yesterdays operating system and yesterdays technology, on a separate machine which ranges in cost or value from $500.00 on down to nothing. The whole point is this. Why take a computer system which may range in price from $1,000.00 to $4,000.00, including an operating system, and then install an $8,000.00 software package, and then invest much much more in dollar value in terms of time and energy, to build a Protel "Machine / Toolbox", on which ones livelihood depends, and which is ultimately used to generate income, and then install other "software" or "things" which are not relevant to that livelyhood or income producing capability, which can ultimately damage, incapacitate, or even possibly destroy that Protel "Machine / Toolbox", and cause you to have to repair or replace it, and possibly even loose part of it (oops!, there goes the hard drive with the file that was just about ready to get backed up!). Hubs, Switches, Routers, Network Adapter Cards, Cat5 Cables, and even whole Computers, are cheap. Really cheap. Especially by comparison. Computers and components are getting so cheap today, that for all practical purposes, many computers and their components can be almost considered as "throwaway computers". Why on earth should one invest more than $10,000.00 in real hard currency (on average), and much much more in real time and real energy, on building a Protel "Machine / Toolbox", the prime purpose of which is to use to make money, and then jeopardize the usefulness and security of that Protel "Machine / Toolbox" investment, by installing things on that computer system which really can be done by and belong on a "throwaway computer". How much money did I make last year using my Protel "Machine / Toolbox"? How much money do I hope to make this year using my Protel "Machine / Toolbox"? How much money do I stand to loose if I don't take proper care of my Protel "Machine / Toolbox", and respect it as the "tool" that it really is? The overall answer is simple. A Protel "Machine / Toolbox" is a very expensive "tool" to be used for making money. Anything not directly necessary to using that Protel "Machine / Toolbox" as a "tool" for that purpose, doesn't even belong on the same computer system. Use a separate "throwaway computer" for email, and internet browsing, and burning CDs, and making backups, and programming, and playing games, etc., etc., etc., and that way there won't be any problems on the Protel "Machine / Toolbox" computer system except for those problems with the Protel software itself. JaMi (separately posted to PEDA and DXP Forums) * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 3:23 AM Subject: [PEDA] Roxio, Nero, Virii and crashes > HELP!!! In attempting to uninstall DirectCD, I've gotten my system into a > state where it won't boot! Sorry if I'm off-topic, but I'm desperate and > these lists are the best resource I've found for help. Others may save > themselves much grief by learning from my experience. I'm cross-posting to > the DXP list as well. > < snip > > > Steve Hendrix > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * To post a message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * To leave this list visit: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/leave.html * * Contact the list manager: * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * Forum Guidelines Rules: * http://www.techservinc.com/protelusers/forumrules.html * * Browse or Search previous postings: * http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
