Am 13.09.2016, 16:51 Uhr, schrieb Blumentrath, Stefan
<[email protected]>:
And if I may add:
Even if the users are aware of the fact that ubuntugis-unstable contains
the current releases, it can be hard to impossible >to convince a
GIS-ignorant system administrator that it is OK to install “unstable”
packages.
But this issue is not a QGIS issue I guess...
Actually, this problem could be easily solved, if there was only a single
line of explanation added next to each of the repositories in the install
instructions, so the uneducated or doubtful can be told and convinced
which package ships which flavour.
And yes, I was told to change this myself and given privileges to do so a
while ago, but I couldn't find the energy to fiddle myself into the
system. And I am still confused myself, cause behaviour seems to change
from release to release a bit.
At the moment, I can hardly write cause my right hand is in plaster and
writing and pushing a mouse is a nightmare. So could not some less
handicapped and more literate guy add some explanations to the website?
Cheers
Bernd
From: Qgis-user [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Randal Hale
Sent: 13. september 2016 16:45
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Qgis-user] Ubuntu updating instructions
On 09/13/2016 10:23 AM, Jürgen E. Fischer wrote:
Hi Randal,
On Tue, 13. Sep 2016 at 00:21:21 -0400, Randal Hale wrote:
It's a little bit confusing. There are like three repositories:
stable, unstable, and testing. Testing you don't want (unless you
want to test packages). Typically stable is a bit older. Unstable is
current. Which doesn't really make sense - but that's the way it is.
Not like it matters much in this case.
We have packages in qgis.org/debian/ against the plain versions of the
distributions (debian and **ubuntu**) and in qgis/ubuntugis/ packages
against
newer dependencies from - and only from - ubuntugis-unstable.
Looks like it's hard for people to accept that there are also ubuntu
packages
in a directory called debian and that probably makes them jump on the
other
because it has ubuntu in it's name.
I was thinking about it last night (and I was up way to late) and it is
a bit confusing for the casual user. They've installed Ubuntu (or
mint/debian/>xubuntu/etc) and they may not understand ubuntu is based
off debian. So like you said - they see debian but want to use Ubuntu.
They go to >UbuntuGIS and they see the repositories for UbuntuGIS and
the choice is unstable (and no one likes unstable software) and stable
(which doesn't >contain the newest software). So you end up going "Use
Unstable because it's stable and current".
Under my /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory I made a qgis.list file
and put the following in there:
deb http://qgis.org/debian xenial main
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntugis/ubuntugis-unstable/ubuntu
xenial main
Why? That are the packages not based on ubuntugis with the
dependencies from
ubuntugis.
Do I have this wrong? I thought I had the repositories for the install
correct based off the directions on qgis.org. Which I could completely
have it >wrong. With the above repos I'm getting QGIS 2.16.x and GDAL
2.1.x.
Jürgen
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