Hello,

I read all messages of this thread and I formed the own opinion.

Well, qooxdoo toolchain is really great feature which contains all
what you need for a real production application. That's true,
that's the way of qooxdoo team and I'm fully with them. It's a little
bit nontraditional way to work with web application and it can confuse
new users.

But I thought about one thing. What would have happened if we had
written Eclipse plug-in which hides all details of build process. All what
you need it, it specity qooxdoo-sdk installation and start new project and
press a button at the end. In this case we would have the powerful command
line toolchain and the high level integration with GUI for new users (and for
old ones as well).
It's also can be integrated with QXDT.

What do new users think about it?

It does not mean that we don't need to have qx.js with all classes (just
for evaluation).

It's just my point - we need to have good IDE integration. It will
solve a lot of
problems for new users.

Best regards,
Siarhei Barysiuk

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Tino Butz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just an idea for qooxdoo to make things easier:
>
> You could just write a Python script, that covers about 90% of things a
> normal user would do with the generator, place it in the root directory of
> the skeleton, so that all the beginners (or not power users) could execute
> this script (as long as they do not change the naming of the standard folder
> hierarchy).
>
> For windows user you could even use
>
> http://www.py2exe.org/
>
> to generate an exe-file from the python script (never tried this before,
> just found it and thought it is a good idea (if it works ;) ). So no need
> for windows user to install python when the want to start from the beginning
> with qooxdoo and do not want to lack from the optimization that offers
> qooxdoo.
>
> I guess even beginners, using windows, could execute an .exe file to do all
> the basic generation of the scripts.
>
> In my opinion the qooxdoo tool chain is really the most difficult step for
> starters to begin with qooxdoo. Would be nice to keep it simple in the
> beginning.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tino
>
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