Your wrong about organ donors always being dead. Often, organ donors are kept on life support until their organs can be harvested in a timely fashion so that the most people will benefit. I could believe that all life is a miracle, but after meeting quite a few lawyers, politicians and religious leaders, I'm quite certain that life is not miraculous and very probably a mistake. Most children and mothers survive birth because now we believe in germs. Did god make germs? Do religions believe in germs? Should a doctor be allowed to study a human body while in med school. Ok. Not your doctor. If penicillin (which was denounced by many religions) be with held from people in those religions? It cures syphilis and we all know that syphilis was a curse from god on people that don't have sex the way god wants them, too. I do believe Jerry Falwell shouldn't have sex and just going by his proportions, I don't think he could have "normal sex". I think he is a masturbator and should be stoned until he finds a new drug. Just like muslim terrorists are all gay. Only a gay guy would want to spend eternity listening to 72 virgins babble incesantly. john -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [email protected] Sent: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Six Stem Cell Facts
Glad to see you partly agree with me Dan. (yes I realize you were being sarcastic) I don't agree with the part about having elaborate funerals and burying them, but yes we must not destroy unused fertilized eggs created for IVF treatments. Using unused embryos is not the same as organ donation because organ donor are dead before organs are harvested. Removing stem cells from an embryo kills the embryo. I've listened to Dr Kerr from Johns Hopkins talk a few times about his research. http://www.hopkinsneuro.org/tm/ watch his presentation at the 2006 symposium here http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2767307331641285489&hl=en he mentioned that they want to use the embryos created for IVF that are deformed (something to that effect) and can not be used for in-vitro treatment. Now I can go along with using those that could not be used to result in a pregnancy. I agree with S. 30: A bill to intensify research to derive human pluripotent stem cell lines At 06:35 PM 4/7/2007, Dan wrote: Yes, yes, yes! We must not destroy all those useless fertilized eggs. We should let them perish on their own and then we should have an elaborate funeral and bury them in a tiny little plot of earth. AND we must not allow abortion at ANY cost. Thank you Jesus! Hallelujah! Dan, who always gives great credence to anything authored by a reverend. At 06:15 PM 4/7/2007 -0700, Jim Lubin said something that elicited my response: SIX STEM CELL FACTS There are non-controversial alternatives worth exploring; such as the reprogramming of ordinary somatic (body) cells, the derivation of stem cells from amniotic fluid, and (assuming that it can be shown that the product is not an embryo), altered nuclear transfer. Concerns about embryo destruction are not only religious; but merely a healthy respect for the human capacity for doing evil in pursuit of the good. The search for cures is not the only motive behind ESC research,; many scientists are interested only in enhancing basic scientific knowledge of such things as cell signaling, tissue growth and early human development. Source: Robert P. George and Thomas V. Berg, "Six Stem Cell Facts," Wall Street Journal, March 14, 2007. For text: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB117384191108736444.html ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.
