On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 5:06:20 AM UTC+1, Andrew David Wong wrote:
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> On 2018-02-02 17:19, Yuraeitha wrote:
> > 
> > It seems omeg who has been maintaining Qubes-Windows-Tools the last
> > few years, has gone inactive
> 
> He is instead working on other projects for ITL's corporate clients,
> so "inactive" is not quite accurate.
> 
> > https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-installer-qubes-os-windows-tools 
> > and thus far, it looks like no one else has picked up the project.
> > 
> 
> Correct.
> 
> > If it is not planned to be done any time soon, then that's alright,
> > I can live with that. I'm already immensely grateful for everything
> > the Qubes team has done. But it's not so easy for everyone though,
> > some people are more heavily reliant on Windows than others for
> > certain applications.
> > 
> > This post is NOT a complaint or anything of the sorts, but instead
> >  a question to settle expectations on the correct path, instead of
> >  looking every day for a new update, which can be a lot of 
> > uncertainty or for some people even anxiety and frustrations, when
> >  on Qubes 4 without a means to get Windows 7 installed. Essentially
> >  people who need Windows and would love to get Qubes 4, are caught
> >  in-between without any idea when or even if Windows 7 will be 
> > supported anytime in the near-term future.
> > 
> > In other words, just knowing it won't be anytime soon is in a way 
> > also very good news, because it puts expectations in the right 
> > place instead of uncertainty. Any such news-update on what is going
> > on with it and what to expect, would be appreciated.
> > 
> 
> As far as I know, Qubes Windows Tools continues to remain on
> indefinite hold. We welcome anyone from the community with the
> requisite skills to take over development (or just pitch in here and
> there).
> 
> > Also, I'm not entirely sure regarding the code itself, but it 
> > should be somewhat close to Qubes 4 in the current 
> > Qubes-Windows-Tools? For example the Qubes 3.2. Win7 restored from
> >  backup in Qubes 4, seems to more or less work, somewhat smoothly,
> >  but not perfect. If so, maybe someone else can help with bringing
> >  Qubes-Windos-Tools to Qubes 4? Unfortunately I have no coding 
> > skills of this sort though, otherwise I'd give it a shot.
> > 
> 
> Sorry, I don't know.
> 
> - -- 
> Andrew David Wong (Axon)
> Community Manager, Qubes OS
> https://www.qubes-os.org
> 
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Thanks Andrew, this was exactly what I was looking for, much appreciated. 

I'm gonna settle in for a plan B as listed below, although it looks really 
interesting if Elias will be looking into it. Maybe Marek or someone else with 
insight into the code can help a little bit to get started?

But for the time being, I might try install Qubes 3.2. as a plan B to create 
some temporary unlicensed clean Win7 Qubes backup's, and see if I can transfer 
them to various of other Qubes 4 systems. This is mostly needed for my friends 
though, and I still need to figure out if this is allowed within the use-cases 
of the Windows 7 license or not, they will use their own licenses. 

This method is a bit cumberstone if the code inside the Win7 installed on Qubes 
3.2. is buggy and creates unreliable issues, like unreliable transfer of data 
integrity. Hopefully nothing bad will happen.

Also need different types of Windows 7 copies for different types of licenses, 
which is a bit problematic, but not impossible.

For now this temporary plan B, this might be a work around to get a new clean 
Win7 on multiple of different Qubes 4 systems, although a bit cumberstone, and 
uncertain possibility of data integrity risk.

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