"Search for "VFIO NVIDIA Error 43" on your favorite search engine.
Pretty much it just shuts off 3D mode and gives you Error 43 in device manager if it detects some hardware virt features, there is a way around it but I wasted hours until I figured out what was going on. It is a gpu only thing, for now." Well. Would you look at that. I've been debating Pascal Titan X or Radeon™ Pro WX 7100, yet this does change the favor of things. "The dangers being malicious corruption of the card firmware or option ROM firmware, or an exploit in the IOMMU GFX related code which is much larger than IOMMU operations that do not involve graphics devices. The best way to do GPU passthrough is with a card that is only used for that VM and use a blob free coreboot platform such as the KGPE-D16 so that you can disallow option rom execution, have some level of DMA protection pre-linux initialization and have no ME/PSP or suspicious binary blobs on your motherboard. If you want to do this I am happy to provide technical assistance, you can play the latest games with no cpu bottleneck on a KGPE-D16 with one of the higher end 16 core opteron 62xx CPU's which you can buy for $20-40 on ebay." I love how KGPE-D16 simply... ROLLS off the tongue. So sure. If you are willing to give some technical assistance to this mad task of mine, I'm certainly willing to give it a look. What ch'a got? Make sure with what ever you have to say, that it's search engine compatible. ;) Thank you, - Mike Mez On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 4:37 AM, taii...@gmx.com <taii...@gmx.com> wrote: > On 12/20/2016 04:04 AM, Andrew David Wong wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> On 2016-12-19 16:29, Mike Mez wrote: >> >>> Wow! I wasn't actually expecting my "dream" scenario to be so >>> possibly ... probably ... maybe in fact viable. I understand that >>> since the main focus in Qubes early stages (or perhaps it's far >>> more proper to say at whole,) is security that this is what your >>> main marketing point would be. Yet with the "windows integration", >>> if I understand this properly, is a big deal. I mean shoot, the >>> only reason (the only reason?) people use windows now a days is >>> its entrenched ubiquitous nature. Shoot, as mentioned the only >>> reason I use(d) it is because that is what the programs I use... >>> use. So the ability to co-op that... am I over thinking this? It >>> just sounds cool to me. >>> >>> "It depends highly on the individual, but if you're coming from a >>> purely Windows background, the biggest thing might be adjusting to >>> a Linux environment. In general, the most important qualities will >>> be perseverance, a willingness to learn, and the ability to solve >>> your own problems. (Of course, the mailing lists are here to help, >>> but things generally don't work very well if someone makes no >>> effort and expects to be spoon-fed solutions.)" >>> >>> Alot of this IT stuff is admittedly over my head currently, and >>> I'm glad the Qubes Team are working towards a better user >>> experience (as mentioned in the interview). I'm just smart enough >>> to know how dumb I am, you see, as this sort of thing is not >>> particularly the world I come from (Design, Print, Games, >>> Artsy...whatever). Overall, the willingness to learn is a given, >>> that doesn't help me much - I'm HERE! I'm looking for a direction >>> for my amateur mind to move on. What I am curious about is what >>> would be required to problem solve. Since Qubes is based on linux, >>> does that mean I could experience problems just as in any other >>> form of linux, and there for I could get a book, and gather >>> information that way. OR. Qubes is so customized that it has its >>> own things about it, and therefor Qubes documentation is the go to >>> to figure out what is going on. I'm trying to figure out my next >>> move here, as Qubes isn't the only alternative OS I've been looking >>> in to, and some of the Distros I've looked at have very through and >>> beginner friendly documentation. The catch being I would have to >>> set up and figure out how to implement a VM, most likely KVM, and >>> do all the things I want to do with that. Furthermore I'm basically >>> dabbling in theory right now, trying to figure out if I should go >>> all in or if it would just be easier to bite the bullet, Baremetal >>> Windows 10, and just air gap all the things. >>> >>> I know its not going to be easy, I knew that when I decided to >>> look into feasibility. I know nothing and I'm trying to figure out >>> what mountain to choose and the equipment I need for the climb as >>> the way I see it I'm pretty much on my own once I start. The >>> potential right now looks the best with Qubes. Amazing potential. >>> I'm very hopeful I can figure this out and make it work, The >>> OpenGL virtualization thing I'm really going to need to wrap my >>> head around for example. >>> >>> Yet now I'm starting to ramble, so I'll leave it at that for now. >>> >>> Thank you for your time and efforts, >>> >>> - Mike Mez >>> >>> Hi again Mike, >> >> (I've CCed the qubes-users mailing list again. Please keep it CCed if >> you reply further.) >> >> I understand your position. At this point, I think you should read, >> learn, and try (i.e., download, install, and use) as much as you can >> about your viable options to figure out which solution is right for you. >> >> While there is a fair amount of code and functionality that is unique >> to Qubes, knowledge of Linux and Xen would still be very helpful. >> Really, though, if you just want to try Qubes out, it shouldn't be >> necessary to learn Linux or Xen at all. If you run into any problems, >> some basic familiarity with the command-line will help, though. >> >> Fair warning, though: If you do decide to go with Qubes and attempt to >> do DIY GPU passthrough, that's likely to be *much* more challenging >> from a technical perspective (though generous users have provided >> detailed guides on this list already). You should also be aware that >> it inherently comes with significant security trade-offs. >> >> Best, >> Andrew >> >> - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) >> Community Manager, Qubes OS >> https://www.qubes-os.org >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYWPQrAAoJENtN07w5UDAw1AwQAMYqiXJtDulpxp9Sp+acP13v >> eJmQ+67UWSdYX1V9Oybj/KSRKRTn4Qpqb/Rf2hg71Yc5TUfSOY6EJlferq9Xf4Y4 >> l6wVdKyJImwFsuvhjpPLJ4GHn/G5o1NGExhucqtUpRMt9QpE/5pFGK/vpWkAefg0 >> h+Ko7i4gKaYqPXohx6k5Gf4+ryYUMceA2wNQAYPcHf6D7zpF7OLaCS8gQO9ItkXb >> Tth0H3RfmrdtgpT5FhvVk5Y8kf1XL7cg/7fcHfnSww9SXzUX2E8fXwkh2irPwcC7 >> W+ih9ewrfnMe4hOrwB849/pkDZF4LxSnLXnsweQiZNJZY1XmUfuwCAmN216TU4zu >> 4UkQBLiQZ47xWwMpNFYF1hVBdVh/blU3B/skxGqs0s9OGbQmR1R9gOlgnEQPxRdp >> wuqBF1ettrfnwonBKn9oTAaK4mrwnJXRgsfaRRm4MjA4fOCKoj9QU92TEBUOwZIk >> 40Uiq2FovS0CNYTdCkIrxqTJvm9DhbxobU5sOu7laB5g2f9QS5naa6ejukgWttBH >> KtGDjQLHT+15AIUbW3/RIAKb8squNH43AjrKb5aNblgvlCNFC1akFBRp7DyDeRkm >> +3RwfazxG0ONnKuA2M0IHvvPq4xUs4BZyp0WK+eg1h3DJcEspoKA9/AAhh8pSTCf >> wLyUmJ3xg03Vw3eOSi9D >> =ilV3 >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> The dangers being malicious corruption of the card firmware or option ROM > firmware, or an exploit in the IOMMU GFX related code which is much larger > than IOMMU operations that do not involve graphics devices. > > The best way to do GPU passthrough is with a card that is only used for > that VM and use a blob free coreboot platform such as the KGPE-D16 so that > you can disallow option rom execution, have some level of DMA protection > pre-linux initialization and have no ME/PSP or suspicious binary blobs on > your motherboard. > > If you want to do this I am happy to provide technical assistance, you can > play the latest games with no cpu bottleneck on a KGPE-D16 with one of the > higher end 16 core opteron 62xx CPU's which you can buy for $20-40 on ebay. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. 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