So far no one has mentioned the competition and what they change (not the el cheapo folk).
Are you better than Craig? Do you charge more or less? Steve On 16/03/2009, at 4:42 PM, Julio Cesar Ody wrote: > > I tend to agree. But the definition of good and what's worth more is > directly proportional to your client's ability to perceive things the > way you do (adjustable through marketing), and how much money he has > in his pocket (not adjustable). > > Think of this scenario: there's you, for $50/hour, making slick > stuff, well balanced, scalable, etc. Then there's el cheapo's websites > for $10/hour. So your task now becomes: explain why you're worth 5x > more. Now between us here, I know damn well why you're worth it, but > your customer may not share our view of better. Or at least not enough > to justify the increase. Then you'll find yourself haggling. > > In a good economy such as what we have here in AU, that's not so > easily perceived . Put it simply, people/companies have more money in > their pockets, and they're mostly willing to afford what's better. > Change that, thanks to a recession, and your demographic suddenly > becomes a lot smaller, competition ensues, and voila: rates will have > to go down. > > That's my theory. I'm happy to hear counterarguments. > > ps: the human game of haggling is what usually puts me off of > freelancing. > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Mike Bailey <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Money is only one component of price. >> >> I see pricing a job as a game of snakes and ladders. Here are some >> of the >> things I take into account when setting a price for a job. My >> clients have >> always been keen to include as many "ladders" as possible in order >> to get >> the best rate. >> >> # Ladders >> * Quick payment >> * Flexibile hours and ability to work remotely >> * Working with smart people >> * Ability to release work as Open Source >> * Working on things I want to learn about >> * Work I see as worthwhile >> >> # Snakes >> * Long payment terms >> * Distracting work environment >> * Frustrating beaurocracy >> >> The most enjoyable project I worked on recently was for a Not For >> Profit >> after the bushfires. It was all ladders and I set my rate at $0. >> Unfortunately I'm not in a position to do all my work at this >> rate! :-) >> >> - Mike >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Craig Ambrose <[email protected] >> > >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> I'm not sure if anyone else is feeling like business is a little >>> different to what it was a couple of years ago. I'm a bit concerned >>> about it, and I've decided to drop my rates fairly dramatically. I'd >>> be interested to hear what others are doing. More on my thoughts >>> here: >>> >>> http://blog.craigambrose.com/past/2009/3/16/keeping_it_real/ >>> >>> cheers, >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> ------- >>> Craig Ambrose >>> Cogent Consulting >>> http://www.craigambrose.com >>> >> >> >>> >> > > > Steve --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
