I'd much prefer holding the event in one location - I'm not sure if we'd get the numbers to justify having it in two or three cities. Depends what the goal is, though...
But I'm just a fan of having a whole stack of awesome people in one place, generally. -- Pat On 10/06/2010, at 4:09 PM, Chris Douglas wrote: > Why not create a fund to attract only the best speakers from other > locations to talk in each state. > > If we raise a few hundred we could invite speakers from interstate to > come along. > If we raise a few thousand we could invite speakers from overseas come > along. > > We could start a Super Speaker Beer Tax SSBT (one gold coin in the jar > for every beer you have) at the at the next meet up and see how we > go. > > I've sat through too much dribble at conferences to spend my money on > subject matter has been covered in a free screencast or by local > speakers already. And there are already great networking events. > > > On Jun 10, 10:31 am, Julian Doherty <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Would attend. Assuming there's drinking involved? There's gonna be beer >> right? >> >> On 10 June 2010 06:21, Luke Chadwick <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Thanks Pat, >>> I'll see about shooting him across some questions when I have a minute. >> >>> Regards, >> >>> Luke >> >>> On 9 June 2010 21:39, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> It was Mark Coleman <[email protected]> who ran Rails Underground. I'm >>> sure he'd be happy to offer some pointers. >> >>>> -- >>>> Pat >> >>>> On 09/06/2010, at 3:50 PM, Daryl Manning wrote: >> >>>>> Pat is right BTW... this is a lot of work. But, I still think it's a >>> worthy endeavour and chances are you can also loop in people from NZ as well >>> (flight is closer than Perth... =] ). >> >>>>> When RailsConf Europe was cancelled, someone put their hand up to create >>> Rails Underground in London, which IMHO was actually a better conference at >>> the end of the day thatn the RailsConf Europe that had been in Berlin the >>> year before. >> >>>>> I've forgotten the guy's name (google is your friend) but he had a nice >>> presentation on how to bring together your own conference and would probably >>> be happy to give the wisdom of his experience. At least when I talked to him >>> he was really open to sharing. >> >>>>> ciao ! >>>>> Daryl. >> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Jason Warner <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>> I would be interested, but I will actually have to be in the country >>>>> to do it (moving to Adelaide in late August). >> >>>>> To Korny's point below, I am still active in the "ruby" and "rails" >>>>> community not because of either ruby or rails (I still program in >>>>> both) but because I tend to get exposed to other interested tech from >>>>> the community. I first learned of Erlang (which I am using to build a >>>>> massive system for my current employer) from a rails user group some >>>>> years ago. My first exposure to NoSQL (before someone lamely called it >>>>> NoSQL) was a rails group and even iPhone and now iPad. >> >>>>> Those are the things that keep me coming back to the Ruby and Rails >>>>> communities, not the latest updates to Bundler or the latest test >>>>> framework...Just my 2 cents. >> >>>>> jason >> >>>>> On Jun 8, 7:09 pm, Korny Sietsma <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Another point to ponder (that has also been raised before, but is >>> worth >>>>>> re-raising IMHO) - what technologies would such a conference cover? >>> And >>>>>> related to this, what would you call it? >> >>>>>> The "Rails" community now includes a lot of people who do very little >>> Ruby >>>>>> on Rails - or even if they use it to pay the bills, it's not >>> necessarily >>>>>> what makes them enthusiastic. It's a useful brand for the community, >>> and I >>>>>> wouldn't consider renaming RailsCamp to anything else, but a >>> conference is a >>>>>> bit different, as you want (presumably) to attract speakers and >>> attendees >>>>>> from outside the core community. >> >>>>>> You could do a "Ruby" conference, but then would you include: >>>>>> - Node.js / CoffeeScript / other neo-javascript stuff >>>>>> - Mongodb / Couchdb / other NoSQL stuff >>>>>> - Html5/Css3/Browser-land stuff >>>>>> - Iphone / Ipad / Icrutch / Android / Other phone stuff >>>>>> - Erlang / Clojure / Ioke / F# / Go / Other poly-language stuff >> >>>>>> I guess you could restrict it to Ruby/Rails - but I for one would love >>> a >>>>>> conference that covers a bit more. >> >>>>>> Yow! is the closest fit we have, but it's kind of pricey for the >>> average >>>>>> developer. (Still looks awesome - take a look at the speakershttp:// >>> yowaustralia.com.au/melbourne/speakers/index.html) >> >>>>>> - Korny >> >>>>>> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Pat Allan <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> As Ben's pointed out, this isn't the first time the topic has been >>>>>>> raised... I'm often quite vocal about it, so apologies to those >>> who've heard >>>>>>> me go on about this before, but here's a few things to consider: >> >>>>>>> * Putting on a Rails Camp is a lot of work. Putting on a conference >>> is a >>>>>>> level beyond that. Who is going to pay for your time? I definitely >>> think >>>>>>> whoever runs the conference (and don't try and do it yourself - you >>> need a >>>>>>> small team!) should be paid at least something for putting it >>> together, but >>>>>>> conferences are also most certainly not money-making ventures. >> >>>>>>> * Speaking of Rails Camps - we have two of these each year. Granted, >>>>>>> they're a little different, and not everyone's cup of tea, but I >>> think it's >>>>>>> still worth asking: why do we need a conference? I'm not saying we >>>>>>> definitely don't need one, but just want to get the thinking laid >>> out. >> >>>>>>> * Many regional conferences are quite informal affairs - something I >>> feel >>>>>>> Rails Camps cover quite neatly. So, if a conference was to happen, I >>> think >>>>>>> it should be a grand and special event - more like a FutureRuby or >>>>>>> NordicRuby than a RailsConf. Great food, catered parties, quality >>> speakers. >>>>>>> Especially if we want to attract overseas speakers and attendees. >>> This is >>>>>>> not the cheap path, though. >> >>>>>>> For what it's worth, I've gotten to several conferences over the >>> last few >>>>>>> years, and FutureRuby was far and away the best one. Happy to expand >>> further >>>>>>> on why if anyone's truly interested. >> >>>>>>> * There are a lot of Ruby and Rails conferences around the world >>> already. >>>>>>> Europe had four in May! Yes, we are pretty remote, so most of us >>> don't get >>>>>>> to these conferences often (or at all), but the same will apply for >>> those >>>>>>> outside of Australia who we'd like to have come along to our >>> conference. >> >>>>>>> * The previous point is important because a good part of the >>> Australian >>>>>>> Ruby community see each other regularly as it is, via monthly meets >>> and >>>>>>> Rails Camps. We've got a pretty amazing community here, and I want >>> to share >>>>>>> that with the world - but it's not going to be easy. >> >>>>>>> I don't want to put an end to these discussions, because I think >>> there's >>>>>>> great potential for an amazing event, and I'd love to help out, but >>> I'm also >>>>>>> wary that with regular Rails Camps, we've got community events kinda >>> covered >>>>>>> already, and want to make sure there's a need. And, should this >>> happen, I >>>>>>> just think the target from the start should be to run something a >>> cut above >>>>>>> normal. Hell, a cut above great. >> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>> e: [email protected] || m: +614 1327 3337 >>>>>>> w:http://freelancing-gods.com || t: twitter.com/pat >>>>>>> bounce:http://trampolineday.com|| skype: patallan >> >>>>>>> On 09/06/2010, at 10:48 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: >> >>>>>>>> Hey Everyone, >>>>>>>> I discovered, in a discussion last night at the Sydney Meetup, >>>>>>>> that there has never been a Ruby/Rails Conference in Australia. I >>> find >>>>>>>> this to be sad, and want to rectify the situation. >> >>>>>>>> I am happy to take a hand in starting to organize an event if >>> there is >>>>>>>> interest in actually seeing it happen. >> >>>>>>>> To get the ball rolling, can I get a show of hands who would >>> attend a >>>>>>>> RubyConf in Sydney? >> >>>>>>>> Regards, >> >>>>>>>> Luke >> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>>>>>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group.> > To post to this group, send email >>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to> >>> [email protected]<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@goog >>> legroups.com> >>> <rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@goog legroups.com> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>>>>>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group.> To post to this group, send email >>> [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to> >>> [email protected]<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@goog >>> legroups.com> >>> <rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@goog legroups.com> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Kornelis Sietsma korny at my surname dot com >>>>>> kornys on twitter/fb/gtalk/gwavewww.sietsma.com/korny >>>>>> "Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part >>>>>> that wonders what the part that isn't thinking >>>>>> isn't thinking of" >> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@goog >>> legroups.com> >>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@goog >>> legroups.com> >>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to... >> >> read more » > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. 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