It was Mark Coleman <[email protected]> who ran Rails Underground. I'm sure 
he'd be happy to offer some pointers.

-- 
Pat

On 09/06/2010, at 3:50 PM, Daryl Manning wrote:

> Pat is right BTW... this is a lot of work. But, I still think it's a worthy 
> endeavour and chances are you can also loop in people from NZ as well (flight 
> is closer than Perth... =] ). 
> 
> When RailsConf Europe was cancelled, someone put their hand up to create 
> Rails Underground in London, which IMHO was actually a better conference at 
> the end of the day thatn the RailsConf Europe that had been in Berlin the 
> year before.
> 
> I've forgotten the guy's name (google is your friend) but he had a nice 
> presentation on how to bring together your own conference and would probably 
> be happy to give the wisdom of his experience. At least when I talked to him 
> he was really open to sharing.
> 
> ciao !
> Daryl.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Jason Warner <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would be interested, but I will actually have to be in the country
> to do it (moving to Adelaide in late August).
> 
> To Korny's point below, I am still active in the "ruby" and "rails"
> community not because of either ruby or rails (I still program in
> both) but because I tend to get exposed to other interested tech from
> the community. I first learned of Erlang (which I am using to build a
> massive system for my current employer) from a rails user group some
> years ago. My first exposure to NoSQL (before someone lamely called it
> NoSQL) was a rails group and even iPhone and now iPad.
> 
> Those are the things that keep me coming back to the Ruby and Rails
> communities, not the latest updates to Bundler or the latest test
> framework...Just my 2 cents.
> 
> jason
> 
> On Jun 8, 7:09 pm, Korny Sietsma <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Another point to ponder (that has also been raised before, but is worth
> > re-raising IMHO) - what technologies would such a conference cover?  And
> > related to this, what would you call it?
> >
> > The "Rails" community now includes a lot of people who do very little Ruby
> > on Rails - or even if they use it to pay the bills, it's not necessarily
> > what makes them enthusiastic.  It's a useful brand for the community, and I
> > wouldn't consider renaming RailsCamp to anything else, but a conference is a
> > bit different, as you want (presumably) to attract speakers and attendees
> > from outside the core community.
> >
> > You could do a "Ruby" conference, but then would you include:
> > - Node.js / CoffeeScript / other neo-javascript stuff
> > - Mongodb / Couchdb / other NoSQL stuff
> > - Html5/Css3/Browser-land stuff
> > - Iphone / Ipad / Icrutch / Android / Other phone stuff
> > - Erlang / Clojure / Ioke / F# / Go / Other poly-language stuff
> >
> > I guess you could restrict it to Ruby/Rails - but I for one would love a
> > conference that covers a bit more.
> >
> > Yow! is the closest fit we have, but it's kind of pricey for the average
> > developer.  (Still looks awesome - take a look at the 
> > speakershttp://yowaustralia.com.au/melbourne/speakers/index.html)
> >
> > - Korny
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Pat Allan <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> > > As Ben's pointed out, this isn't the first time the topic has been
> > > raised... I'm often quite vocal about it, so apologies to those who've 
> > > heard
> > > me go on about this before, but here's a few things to consider:
> >
> > > * Putting on a Rails Camp is a lot of work. Putting on a conference is a
> > > level beyond that. Who is going to pay for your time? I definitely think
> > > whoever runs the conference (and don't try and do it yourself - you need a
> > > small team!) should be paid at least something for putting it together, 
> > > but
> > > conferences are also most certainly not money-making ventures.
> >
> > > * Speaking of Rails Camps - we have two of these each year. Granted,
> > > they're a little different, and not everyone's cup of tea, but I think 
> > > it's
> > > still worth asking: why do we need a conference? I'm not saying we
> > > definitely don't need one, but just want to get the thinking laid out.
> >
> > > * Many regional conferences are quite informal affairs - something I feel
> > > Rails Camps cover quite neatly. So, if a conference was to happen, I think
> > > it should be a grand and special event - more like a FutureRuby or
> > > NordicRuby than a RailsConf. Great food, catered parties, quality 
> > > speakers.
> > > Especially if we want to attract overseas speakers and attendees. This is
> > > not the cheap path, though.
> >
> > > For what it's worth, I've gotten to several conferences over the last few
> > > years, and FutureRuby was far and away the best one. Happy to expand 
> > > further
> > > on why if anyone's truly interested.
> >
> > > * There are a lot of Ruby and Rails conferences around the world already.
> > > Europe had four in May! Yes, we are pretty remote, so most of us don't get
> > > to these conferences often (or at all), but the same will apply for those
> > > outside of Australia who we'd like to have come along to our conference.
> >
> > > * The previous point is important because a good part of the Australian
> > > Ruby community see each other regularly as it is, via monthly meets and
> > > Rails Camps. We've got a pretty amazing community here, and I want to 
> > > share
> > > that with the world - but it's not going to be easy.
> >
> > > I don't want to put an end to these discussions, because I think there's
> > > great potential for an amazing event, and I'd love to help out, but I'm 
> > > also
> > > wary that with regular Rails Camps, we've got community events kinda 
> > > covered
> > > already, and want to make sure there's a need. And, should this happen, I
> > > just think the target from the start should be to run something a cut 
> > > above
> > > normal. Hell, a cut above great.
> >
> > > --
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> >
> > > On 09/06/2010, at 10:48 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote:
> >
> > > > Hey Everyone,
> > > >     I discovered, in a discussion last night at the Sydney Meetup,
> > > > that there has never been a Ruby/Rails Conference in Australia. I find
> > > > this to be sad, and want to rectify the situation.
> >
> > > > I am happy to take a hand in starting to organize an event if there is
> > > > interest in actually seeing it happen.
> >
> > > > To get the ball rolling, can I get a show of hands who would attend a
> > > > RubyConf in Sydney?
> >
> > > > Regards,
> >
> > > > Luke
> >
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