I would attend as well On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote:
> It was Mark Coleman <[email protected]> who ran Rails Underground. I'm > sure he'd be happy to offer some pointers. > > -- > Pat > > On 09/06/2010, at 3:50 PM, Daryl Manning wrote: > > > Pat is right BTW... this is a lot of work. But, I still think it's a > worthy endeavour and chances are you can also loop in people from NZ as well > (flight is closer than Perth... =] ). > > > > When RailsConf Europe was cancelled, someone put their hand up to create > Rails Underground in London, which IMHO was actually a better conference at > the end of the day thatn the RailsConf Europe that had been in Berlin the > year before. > > > > I've forgotten the guy's name (google is your friend) but he had a nice > presentation on how to bring together your own conference and would probably > be happy to give the wisdom of his experience. At least when I talked to him > he was really open to sharing. > > > > ciao ! > > Daryl. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Jason Warner <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I would be interested, but I will actually have to be in the country > > to do it (moving to Adelaide in late August). > > > > To Korny's point below, I am still active in the "ruby" and "rails" > > community not because of either ruby or rails (I still program in > > both) but because I tend to get exposed to other interested tech from > > the community. I first learned of Erlang (which I am using to build a > > massive system for my current employer) from a rails user group some > > years ago. My first exposure to NoSQL (before someone lamely called it > > NoSQL) was a rails group and even iPhone and now iPad. > > > > Those are the things that keep me coming back to the Ruby and Rails > > communities, not the latest updates to Bundler or the latest test > > framework...Just my 2 cents. > > > > jason > > > > On Jun 8, 7:09 pm, Korny Sietsma <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Another point to ponder (that has also been raised before, but is worth > > > re-raising IMHO) - what technologies would such a conference cover? > And > > > related to this, what would you call it? > > > > > > The "Rails" community now includes a lot of people who do very little > Ruby > > > on Rails - or even if they use it to pay the bills, it's not > necessarily > > > what makes them enthusiastic. It's a useful brand for the community, > and I > > > wouldn't consider renaming RailsCamp to anything else, but a conference > is a > > > bit different, as you want (presumably) to attract speakers and > attendees > > > from outside the core community. > > > > > > You could do a "Ruby" conference, but then would you include: > > > - Node.js / CoffeeScript / other neo-javascript stuff > > > - Mongodb / Couchdb / other NoSQL stuff > > > - Html5/Css3/Browser-land stuff > > > - Iphone / Ipad / Icrutch / Android / Other phone stuff > > > - Erlang / Clojure / Ioke / F# / Go / Other poly-language stuff > > > > > > I guess you could restrict it to Ruby/Rails - but I for one would love > a > > > conference that covers a bit more. > > > > > > Yow! is the closest fit we have, but it's kind of pricey for the > average > > > developer. (Still looks awesome - take a look at the speakershttp:// > yowaustralia.com.au/melbourne/speakers/index.html) > > > > > > - Korny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Pat Allan <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > As Ben's pointed out, this isn't the first time the topic has been > > > > raised... I'm often quite vocal about it, so apologies to those > who've heard > > > > me go on about this before, but here's a few things to consider: > > > > > > > * Putting on a Rails Camp is a lot of work. Putting on a conference > is a > > > > level beyond that. Who is going to pay for your time? I definitely > think > > > > whoever runs the conference (and don't try and do it yourself - you > need a > > > > small team!) should be paid at least something for putting it > together, but > > > > conferences are also most certainly not money-making ventures. > > > > > > > * Speaking of Rails Camps - we have two of these each year. Granted, > > > > they're a little different, and not everyone's cup of tea, but I > think it's > > > > still worth asking: why do we need a conference? I'm not saying we > > > > definitely don't need one, but just want to get the thinking laid > out. > > > > > > > * Many regional conferences are quite informal affairs - something I > feel > > > > Rails Camps cover quite neatly. So, if a conference was to happen, I > think > > > > it should be a grand and special event - more like a FutureRuby or > > > > NordicRuby than a RailsConf. Great food, catered parties, quality > speakers. > > > > Especially if we want to attract overseas speakers and attendees. > This is > > > > not the cheap path, though. > > > > > > > For what it's worth, I've gotten to several conferences over the last > few > > > > years, and FutureRuby was far and away the best one. Happy to expand > further > > > > on why if anyone's truly interested. > > > > > > > * There are a lot of Ruby and Rails conferences around the world > already. > > > > Europe had four in May! Yes, we are pretty remote, so most of us > don't get > > > > to these conferences often (or at all), but the same will apply for > those > > > > outside of Australia who we'd like to have come along to our > conference. > > > > > > > * The previous point is important because a good part of the > Australian > > > > Ruby community see each other regularly as it is, via monthly meets > and > > > > Rails Camps. We've got a pretty amazing community here, and I want to > share > > > > that with the world - but it's not going to be easy. > > > > > > > I don't want to put an end to these discussions, because I think > there's > > > > great potential for an amazing event, and I'd love to help out, but > I'm also > > > > wary that with regular Rails Camps, we've got community events kinda > covered > > > > already, and want to make sure there's a need. And, should this > happen, I > > > > just think the target from the start should be to run something a cut > above > > > > normal. Hell, a cut above great. > > > > > > > -- > > > > Pat > > > > e: [email protected] || m: +614 1327 3337 > > > > w:http://freelancing-gods.com || t: twitter.com/pat > > > > bounce:http://trampolineday.com|| skype: patallan > > > > > > > On 09/06/2010, at 10:48 AM, Luke Chadwick wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey Everyone, > > > > > I discovered, in a discussion last night at the Sydney Meetup, > > > > > that there has never been a Ruby/Rails Conference in Australia. I > find > > > > > this to be sad, and want to rectify the situation. > > > > > > > > I am happy to take a hand in starting to organize an event if there > is > > > > > interest in actually seeing it happen. > > > > > > > > To get the ball rolling, can I get a show of hands who would attend > a > > > > > RubyConf in Sydney? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Luke > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group.> > To post to this group, send email > [email protected]. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to> > [email protected]<rails-oceania%[email protected]> > <rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@goog legroups.com> > > > > . > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group.> To post to this group, send email > [email protected]. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to> > [email protected]<rails-oceania%[email protected]> > <rails-oceania%2bunsubscr...@goog legroups.com> > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > > > Kornelis Sietsma korny at my surname dot com > > > kornys on twitter/fb/gtalk/gwavewww.sietsma.com/korny > > > "Every jumbled pile of person has a thinking part > > > that wonders what the part that isn't thinking > > > isn't thinking of" > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<rails-oceania%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<rails-oceania%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<rails-oceania%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. 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