It's a great ideal, but trying to shift the languages used for instruction is a 
big ask, as it would require the lecturers to actually rework the course notes, 
rather than working on their research...

The path of least resistance is probably for someone go to whichever uni you're 
targeting and do an intro to Ruby type seminar/guest lecture, in conjunction 
with either the faculty itself, or a Comp Sci students society/club/whatever if 
one exists. 

Get students interested, get them using ruby and get them out to the user 
groups... Sure, you'll expose less students to ruby than if they were all 
forced to use it, but then where do you think the bad PHP programmers all came 
from? :P


On 26/04/2012, at 2:58 PM, Daryl Manning wrote:

> +1 on educational advocacy. Anyone have an idea what USyd, UTS et al are 
> teaching in terms of web development and frameworks these days? 
> 
> (I know during my UK MSc, java and C++ were the *only* programming options 
> and the whole curricula was very, very Microsoft focused. It was swimming 
> upstream trying to use php for web projects and/or ruby - hell, even a mac 
> for that matter.).
> 
> D.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Leonard <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is probably wildly off-topic....
> 
> Where do we raise issues or suggestions for Ruby Australia in meeting it's 
> core aims?
> 
> Today @dhh was tweeting that the "Rails job market still is [tight]". One 
> aspect affecting this is the lack of new ruby developers coming in and 
> learning Ruby. I feel that it should be the responsibility of Ruby Australia 
> to encourage Universities and High Schools to teach Ruby as opposed to Java 
> or PHP. I'm not sure about everyone else but my university taught PHP as a 
> web language (and now teaches PHP/Java from what I can tell). I know that if 
> I had been exposed to Ruby (or Python) at university I would have spent much 
> less time faffing around making crappy PHP websites or alternatively being 
> confused and overawed by those "enterprise" Java monstrosities.
> 
> Has Ruby/Rails education advocacy been discussed as one of the goals of Ruby 
> Australia? Should it be?
> 
> -- Len
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