Interestingly I've been listening to the Ruby Rogues podcast episode Programming Language Fundamentals where they discuss if Ruby is a good language to teach to someone first.
I came from Java to Ruby and I'm not sure that I could have travelled the other way as easily. On 26 April 2012 15:46, Warren Seen <[email protected]> wrote: > It's a great ideal, but trying to shift the languages used for instruction > is a big ask, as it would require the lecturers to actually rework the > course notes, rather than working on their research... > > The path of least resistance is probably for someone go to whichever uni > you're targeting and do an intro to Ruby type seminar/guest lecture, in > conjunction with either the faculty itself, or a Comp Sci students > society/club/whatever if one exists. > > Get students interested, get them using ruby and get them out to the user > groups... Sure, you'll expose less students to ruby than if they were all > forced to use it, but then where do you think the bad PHP programmers all > came from? :P > > > On 26/04/2012, at 2:58 PM, Daryl Manning wrote: > > +1 on educational advocacy. Anyone have an idea what USyd, UTS et al are > teaching in terms of web development and frameworks these days? > > (I know during my UK MSc, java and C++ were the *only* programming options > and the whole curricula was very, very Microsoft focused. It was swimming > upstream trying to use php for web projects and/or ruby - hell, even a mac > for that matter.). > > D. > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Leonard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This is probably wildly off-topic.... >> >> Where do we raise issues or suggestions for Ruby Australia in meeting >> it's core aims? >> >> Today @dhh was tweeting that the "Rails job market still is [tight]". One >> aspect affecting this is the lack of new ruby developers coming in and >> learning Ruby. I feel that it should be the responsibility of Ruby >> Australia to encourage Universities and High Schools to teach Ruby as >> opposed to Java or PHP. I'm not sure about everyone else but my university >> taught PHP as a web language (and now teaches PHP/Java from what I can >> tell). I know that if I had been exposed to Ruby (or Python) at university >> I would have spent much less time faffing around making crappy PHP websites >> or alternatively being confused and overawed by those "enterprise" Java >> monstrosities. >> >> Has Ruby/Rails education advocacy been discussed as one of the goals of >> Ruby Australia? Should it be? >> >> -- Len >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rails-oceania/-/4zIirOMSUo0J. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en.
