:( Bummer, I'll be in Singapore then, otherwise I'd try and go - the Launceston campus is 5 mins from here.
Cheers, Warren. On 27/04/2012, at 3:03 PM, Tommy Fotak <[email protected]> wrote: > Turns out UTas are listening, this is an email I received this morning; > > "hi, > The School of Computing and Information Systems at the University of Tasmania > is currently undertaking a full curriculum renewal for implementation in > 2014. This is a very exciting opportunity for you to influence the future > direction of ICT in Tasmania. > > For this renewal to be successful we require input from the Tasmanian ICT > industry and any industry that has an interest in employing ICT graduates. We > held a very successful form on the 26th April and we would like to hold > another one to give everyone the opportunity to participate. On the 17th May > 10am – 1pm we will be holding an industry forum to seek your advice on the > career outcomes for future ICT graduates and the skill set Tasmania will need > in future ICT graduates to support the needs and growth of the local > industry. > There will be a light lunch provided at 1pm. > > If you would like to attend the forum can you please email Nicole Herbert > ([email protected]) for further details – the forums will be held > simultaneously on both the Hobart and Launceston campuses of the University > of Tasmania. > > If you know of someone who would be interested in the forum, please feel free > to send this email onto them. We are interested in hearing from everyone who > has an interest in ICT graduates." > > On 27 April 2012 14:50, Leonard <[email protected]> wrote: > I went through a few Sydney based universities went through their handbooks > and tried to figure out what web technologies each university offers as part > of their IT courses and made it into a google spreadsheet so anyone can > correct me if they feel like it. Basically everyone either uses Java, .NET > with UTS using PHP in one of their courses (where they also teach JSP!) > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiXwL9nLLJg2dE9acHdUMzdvcjlIV21adUl1N0tkakE > > It was rather depressing. Here are a few choice quotes: > > UNSW > Through a large project, you will get exposure to a number of different > contexts in which application development is required (e.g. building a Web > site and accessing a database). The programming language used will be > object-oriented (e.g. Java). > > I find it interesting that building a database-backed website is considered a > large project. > > UOW > introduce students to User Interface (UI) elements in general and Web Forms > covers the object oriented features of web programming in general and the > concept of dynamically generated classes from web forms and their web > controls in particular. Form processing, the interaction of web applications > through SOAP (Simple Object Model) protocol > > In case anyone has managed to avoid SOAP: be thankful. > > The more I look at this the more I think technology and web education needs > to improve. I can't find any mention of things like testing or source control > and very little mention of open source at all. I remember that during my > degree at UTS I was the one who introduced SVN to the other students - but > only because I was using ClearCase at work... UOW in particular must be > particularly hated by students with Macbooks being entirely .NET > focused.Lief's comment was particularly insightful. I can't help but think > that having people head to universities to talk about how to differentiate > yourself, or even simply advertising the fact that there are such thing as > real-world programming communities would be both extremely useful to students > and useful for our niche too. > > -- Len > > On Thursday, April 26, 2012 2:58:26 PM UTC+10, Daryl wrote: > +1 on educational advocacy. Anyone have an idea what USyd, UTS et al are > teaching in terms of web development and frameworks these days? > > (I know during my UK MSc, java and C++ were the *only* programming options > and the whole curricula was very, very Microsoft focused. It was swimming > upstream trying to use php for web projects and/or ruby - hell, even a mac > for that matter.). > > D. > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Leonard > This is probably wildly off-topic.... > > Where do we raise issues or suggestions for Ruby Australia in meeting it's > core aims? > > Today @dhh was tweeting that the "Rails job market still is [tight]". One > aspect affecting this is the lack of new ruby developers coming in and > learning Ruby. I feel that it should be the responsibility of Ruby Australia > to encourage Universities and High Schools to teach Ruby as opposed to Java > or PHP. I'm not sure about everyone else but my university taught PHP as a > web language (and now teaches PHP/Java from what I can tell). I know that if > I had been exposed to Ruby (or Python) at university I would have spent much > less time faffing around making crappy PHP websites or alternatively being > confused and overawed by those "enterprise" Java monstrosities. > > Has Ruby/Rails education advocacy been discussed as one of the goals of Ruby > Australia? 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