If there is one thing that we as commanders have a responsibility to do, it is to preserve the dignity of the boys. I learned this as a boy, and have seen it reinforced throughout my lifetime. Satan uses bad experiences like the one that Bob Simon related to scar a boy for life. One of the worst things a RR leader could do is to be responsible for such an experience. I'm pretty well known for seeing things in "black and white", and being just about as narrow-minded as they come, but I can think of no excuse for this.
Alot of things have come to light through this discussion. Not all of them things to be proud about. I'm just as guilty as anyone, I reckon.
Ken, I would recommend that you delete that "Parade of Discipline" or whatever it was- before you use this thing. It won't fly this side of the ocean, and I pray your better than that.
It seems that you have misunderstood the nature of the formal discipline parade. My impression is that you think it is in front of all the rangers. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The commander and senior commander and the ranger meet off to the side of the auditorium or whereever rangers is running. All the activities of the evening continue, unaware that a FDP is even underway.
When we first discussed this in 1997 on this forum, it was met with widespread appeal and support. It is already "across the ocean" :)
BTW - please tell me how taking a boy behind the bushes and spanking him - to the full knowledge of his patrol - "preserve[s] the dignity of the boys"
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Ken Komoto
- Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:51 PM
- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Subject: [RR] two things
- Victor - discipline code is very nicely done. Though we have a formal Code
- of Conduct, we have never had a formal code for discipline. we have had an
- informal discipline code, but we have never codified it and printed it. If
- it is OK with you and/or the others, I would like to copy and use it. I
- would also like to publish it as part of our parent information packet.
- Once on a bus trip, I had a Buckaroo ask me to stop the bus so he could go
- to the bathroom. We had just told everyone to go before loading up, so I
- told him to
- wait until we got home. Much to my shame and mortification, he couldn't hold
- it until we got home. From that point on, I have been a LOT more flexible
- with bathroom trips. Regardless of when they were last told to go. Regardless
- of the inconvenience to the rest of us. Inconvenience is nothing compared to
- the potential damage to the child. During meeting times, if I have doubts
- about the situation, I send a guide or the senior guide with the boy.
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